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October 2, 1954, Nessier, Vendée:

Reference number for this case: 2-oct-54-Nessier. Thank you for including this reference number in any correspondence with me regarding this case.

Reports:

[Ref. lf1:] "LE FIGARO" NEWSPAPER:

Flying saucers

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In La Rochelle, Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau were in front of their farm when they saw, approximately one meter above the ground, a spherical saucer measuring possibly 2 to 3 meters in height and of a diameter of 5 meters. The machine, which did not produce any noise, stopped a few minutes, then went up vertically. The next day, Mr. Guillemoteau went to the place where he had seen the machine and could notice oily traces on the grass.

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Note: the full article can be read here.

[Ref. le1:] "L'EST REPUBLICAIN" NEWSPAPER:

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A BAKER FROM BRITTANY CLAIMS THIS:

"My Martian was not shaven and had eyes as large as a corbel's egg"

The daily chronicle of the "flying saucers" grows more and more. Each day, numerous newsbriefs report the passage of mysterious machines in this or that region. It remains to be learned whether the bad weather that the complacent meteorologists announce obligingly, will have an unspecified influence on the gracious evolutions of the ethereal visitors. It does not seem to be that way, so far.

To see a machine in the sky thus is nothing extraordinary anymore and one could fear monotony if, fortunately, the "celestial pilots" didn't come from time to pay a short visit on the dry land and to bring with their height, their costume and their actions, more spice to the current controversies on the reality of the "saucers".

"He resembled a man"

In this field, the transitory ephemeral topicality is rightfully to be credited today to a modest bakery worker of Loctudy (the Finistère), Mr. Pierre Lucas.

Standing up early and well awaken, our man was going to get water in the court of the bakery Tuesday morning when, in the wavering gleam of a rainy dawn, he saw a machine of the shape of a saucer of 2 m. 50 to 3 m. in diameter, which stationed there stupidly. He would certainly not have cared that much about it, if he hadn't suddenly seen an individual come out of it!

"He measured 1 m. 20, resembled a man (sic) and approached me. Before I recovered from my surprise, he had tapped on my shoulder while articulating unintelligible words."

Mr. Lucas showed a remarkable coolness. "Come inside, we'll have a chat", he

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"My Martian was not shaven..."

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must have told him, for the unknown followed him in the bake house. There, one saw all the same a little more clearly and without shame the "Martian" let himself be contemplated.

It is still Mr. Lucas who speaks:
"He had an oval face, entirely covered of hairs and eyes of the size of a corbel's egg!"

The young man called his owner, but the unknown undoubtedly estimated that the interview had lasted long enough. By the time that Mr. Lucas goes into the staircase to alert his owner with cares, the man and the machine had disappeared. Too bad...

First thing thus learn until better information: the strangers that pilot the saucers have a human form, but the size of children, and apparently developed hair.

Confirmation is given to us by Mr. Henri Lehérisé, young farmer of Megrit (Côtes-du-Nord), whose gift of observation did not await the number of the years.

With much off-handedness, his own apparatus, whose diameter did not exceed one meter, was posed in the court of his farm. Two dwarves occupied it, motionless, impassive. They did not condescend to come out and engage the conversation.

Some saucers among others...

These two appearances obviously eclipse the "visions" of the day. Let us note however that the "saucers", threatened for a while by the barrels, balls, crescents and other cigars, launched a counter-attack of great style since there are now only talks of saucers.

The one in Saint-Brieuc let itself be contemplated during one hour; that of the surroundings of La Rochelle hovered in front of the farm of Mr. and Mrs. Guillenoteau, within one meter of the ground, in an impressive silence and the farmer noted oily traces in the grass.

In Lézignan, it was at the same time flying and giant: ten meters in diameter! Three meters only, the one that landed in the garden of Mr. Jean Labonne, in Bergerac, but on three crutches.

Lastly, the "saucers" cannot always be approached: that of Lésignan, again, wrapped Misters André Garcia and André Darzens of a bright gleam before disappearing. The one in Clermont-Ferrand literally nailed the witnesses who wanted to see it closely on the spot and released a strong nitro-benzene odor.

When the machine moved away, faintness ceased with the odor.

The good story of the poor fisherman

Odorous, colored and inhabited, the "saucers" are also international. In Mantova, they passed in tight formations and one of them was detached from the group to make a small air carrousel show which lasted one hour... and blocked the traffic in the center of the city, the witnesses having gone down in the street for better seeing.

In Roverbella, finally, a poor fisherman entered in conversation with a "Martian", dressed in red, but they were unable to understand each other and his interlocutor disappeared when he saw the fisherman's woman appear. Mysoginic [mysogynic], perhaps...

[Ref. lm1:] "LE MERIDIONAL" NEWSPAPER:

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SAUCERS AND CIGARS

In La Rochelle, M. and Mrs. Guillemoteau were in front of their farm when they saw within one meter approximately from the ground, a spherical saucer that might have measured 2 to 3 meters in height and a diameter of 5 meters. The machine which did not produce any noise stopped a few minutes, then went up vertically.

Mr. Guillemoteau, the next day, went to the place where she had seen the machine and affirms she noted oily traces on the grass.

A "cigar" observed during nine hours in the sky of Briançon

MONTGENEVRE (C.P.). -- Many people were able to follow Sunday from 09:30 a.m. to 6 p.m. the moves of a "flying cigar".

Observed with the binocular the machine which seemed to station at a very high altitude, disappeared finally behind the ridge of Montbrisson, after nine hours of flight.

The "Martian" of the Finistère had the face covered of hair and the eyes like "a corbel's egg"

QUIMPER. -- Around 4 o'clock, Tuesday morning, Mr. Pierre Lucas, bakery worker in Loctudy (the Finistère) who was busy drawing water in the court of the bakery, suddenly saw in the night a machine in the shape of a saucer of 2 m. 50 to 3 meters in diameter. He saw come out of it an individual measuring approximately 1 m. 20 who approached him while articulating unintelligibles words.

The bakery workman managed to stay calm and returned to the bakehouse where the unknown followed him.

In the light Mr. Lucas managed to check out the face of the visitor. He had the face covered of hair and the eyes of the size of a corbel's egg.

The young man called his owner but, before the latter had enough time to come down, the nocturnal unknown had disappeared as did his saucer, no trace of which was found.

A beer merchant of Concarneau had, on his side, stated to have seen in the sky, two luminous discs of the form of round tables prolonged of a kind of tail.

One of the discs was motionless while the other moved in the vicinity. The two discs disappeared at the end of ten minutes after having launched a rocket.

Saucers and Martians in Italy

MANTOVA. -- The traffic was stopped during more than one hour in the center of Mantova by groups of people gathered to observe a strange "white object" which, at a high height, was clearly detached on the background of the blue sky.

After having carried out extremely fast maneuvers, the machine, of spherical form - and which according to certain witnesses formed part "of a formation of flying saucers" remained motionless for some time in the sky, before disappearing at the horizon.

In addition, the "Martians" also seem to want to visit Italy. Indeed, a fisherman of Roverbella, province of Mantova, stated to have been approached by a "mysterious individual", dressed in red, which would have spoken "unintelligibles words" to him, and which would have quickly moved away before the fisherman had the time to call his wife.

DID A SAUCER LAND CLOSE TO BARCELONNETTE?

BARCELONNETTE (C.P.). -- During the day of Tuesday, four people residing in Barcelonnette, extremely known and esteemed in the city, saw at 11:15, a mysterious metallic object, which was shining in the sun, in the area ranging between the higher part of the forest of Gaudissart and below the Chapeau de Gendarme.

This machine, very odd, disappeared later, during the afternoon, as mysteriously as it had come.

[Ref. er1:] "L'ECHO REPUBLICAIN" NEWSPAPER:

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SAUCERS

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[]be. They have been observed for more than one hour.

LA ROCHELLE, 6. -- Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau were in front of their farm when they saw, about a meter from the ground, a spherical saucer that could have measured 2 to 3 meters in height and of a diameter of 5 meters. The craft, which produced no noise, stopped a few minutes, then went up vertically. Mr. Guillemoteau the next day, went to the place where he had seen the craft and could find oily traces on the grass.

A WHISTLING DISK

MELUN, 6. - Coulommiers newspaper "Le Pays Briard", published a letter from one of his readers, Mr. E. Farnier, Member of the Society of Civil Engineers of France, about a flying saucer.

In this letter, Mr. Farnier says he has seen over his property in Jouy-sur-Morin, a large disk of 8 to 10 meters in diameter "turning on the spot while releasing red-violet light, with a whistling sound somewhat reminiscent of the arrival of a jet plane. The craft was about 400 meters in height and hovered over twenty minutes above me. So I, said Mr. Farnier, had all the time to observe it. The craft then disappeared towards Coulommiers."

In his letter, Mr. Farnier states:

"Former commissioner of the Aero Club of France, having served in aviation, I have not been hallucinating and this thing was not a weather balloon, but a thick circular wing hovering on up and moving at very high speed gradually taking height."

ITALIAN STYLE SAUCERS

MANTUA, 6. - Traffic was interrupted for more than an hour in the center of Mantua by groups of people gathered to observe a strange "black object" which, at a high altitude, stood out clearly on the blue sky background.

After making extremely rapid maneuvers, the spherical shaped craft - and according to some witnesses, it was part of "a formation of flying saucers" - remained for some time motionless in the sky before disappearing at the horizon.

On the other hand the "Martians" also seem to want to visit Italy. Indeed, a fisherman of Roverbella, province of Mantova, said he was approached last night by a "mysterious person", dressed in red, who would have told him "unintelligible words" and who would have quickly left before the fisherman had time to call his wife.

[Ref. co1:] "LE COURRIER DE L'OUEST" NEWSPAPER:

The photograph underneath has been published in the daily newspaper Le Courrier de l'Ouest, Angers, France, on October 19, 1954.

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Mrs GUILLMOTEAU in the Vendée

Note: the full article can be read here.

[Ref. jg1:] JIMMY GUIEU:

Jimmy Guieu indicates that on October 6, 1954, in the evening in La Rochelle, Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau were in front of their farm when they saw a craft moving only 1 meter above the ground. It was a white metal disc with a center that was occupied by a sphere of 2.5 meters approximately.

The craft was absolutely silent and was immobilized a few minutes, then rose vertically at a sharp pace and moved away.

The next day, the farmers went to the place where they had seen the craft and noticed oily traces in the grass.

[Ref. am1:] AIME MICHEL:

Aimé Michel indicates that on October 3, 1954, in Nessier, a hamlet of the community of Benet in the Vendée, Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw a circular luminous object of red color on the level of the ground at the edge of a marsh.

When they approached, the object flew away fast and disappeared.

The gendarmes go to the location on the next day and discover "oily stains."

[Ref. mc1:] "MICHEL CARROUGES":

Michel Carrouges indicates that the Guillemoteau sighting lasted a few minutes.

[Ref. ni1:] NICAP:

Richard Hall of the National Investigation Committee on Aerial Phenomena noted that there was a UFO sighting in France in Nessier on October 3, 1954, in which oily spots were found. The source is noted as page 78 of Aimé Michel's book.

[Ref. jv3:] JACQUES VALLEE:

Jacques Vallée indicates that on October 5, 1954, at 11:00 p.m., according to the Press of the time, Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw close to La Rochelle a "craft" of 2 to 3 meters in height and of a diameter of 5 meters which went up vertically after having stopped a few minutes at one meter in altitude. Oily traces were found in grass.

Jacques Vallée adds that he does not make any judgment yet on the value of the testimony neither on the sincerity of the witnesses nor on the plausibility of the reported facts.

[Ref. jv7:] JACQUES VALLEE - "HISTORIA" MAGAZINE:

October 3, 1954, 11:00 p.m.. Benet (Vendée).

Near La Rochelle, Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw an object 2.50 m high and 5 meters in diameter that hovered for several minutes at 1 meter above the ground, then rose vertically. Oily stains were found at this location.

[Ref. jv5:] JACQUES VALLEE:

228 000.59768 46.36800 03 10 1954 23 30 201 BENET-NESSIER-VEND F 001222 C** 222

[Ref. jv2:] JACQUES VALLEE:

The author indicates that on October 3, 1954, a man and his wife saw a red luminous object which flew away when they arrived close to it, in the vicinity of Benet, close to Nessier in the Vendée.

[Ref. jv1:] JACQUES VALLEE:

187

Oct. 03, 1954, 01:00 P.M. Benet (France).

Near La Rochelle. Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw an object, 2.5 m high, 5 m diameter, hover for several minutes 1 m above ground, then rise vertically. Oily marks were found at the spot. (34; M 131) (Franc-Tireur, la Croix, France-Soir, le Figaro, October 7, 1954)

[Ref. fr1:] MICHEL FIGUET AND JEAN-LOUIS RUCHON:

The two authors ufologists report that on October 2, 1954, at 09:30 P.M., in Nessier in the Vendée, Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau observed a spherical object on the ground, of approximately 5 meters broad by three meters in height.

The object was silent and was surrounded by a red gleam.

After having remained stationary during 5 minutes, it took off vertically then moved away in the direction of the city from La Rochelle.

The next day, Mr. Gillemoteau noted traces of an oily material on the site.

The sources are indicated as case 187 of the Vallée catalogue; a press article; Aimé Michel in "A propos des S.V." page 166; Jimmy Guieu in "Black-Out sur les S.V." page 197; Quincy.

[Ref. fr2:] MICHEL FIGUET AND JEAN-LOUIS RUCHON:

The two authors and ufologists indicate that on October 6, 1954 at 10:30 p.m., in La Rochelle in the department of Charente Maritime, there was an observation of a metallic disc of five meters in diameter evolving one meter above the ground.

They indicate that their source is their personal archive.

[Ref. bb1:] GERARD BARTHEL AND JACQUES BRUCKER:

These two authors wrote in their book that they had a discussion with Mrs. Guillemoteau who told them that the observed phenomenon was very far, more than one kilometer away.

They write that Mrs. Guillemoteau described the phenomenon as being similar to the setting sun, and the authors make the setting sun their explanation for the phenomenon.

As they indicate that the observation according to certain accounts had taken place at 11:00 P.M. when the sun is long gone and according to other reports at 09:30 P.M., they indicate that the timer is not known precisely and that thus the observation could have taken place when the sun was setting down and be an observation of the setting sun.

[Ref. mf1:] MICHEL FIGUET:

Michel Figuet noted in his listing of dubious cases:

10/2/1954

Nessier near Benet

Confusion: B.B p. 182.

("B.B." refers to the book by Barthel and Brucker, see above.)

[Ref. lg1] LOREN GROSS:

Benet, France. (11:00 p.m.)

For several minutes-a red UFO, its size 6 by 12 feet, was observed motionless over a swampy area by a French couple, M. and Mme. Guillemoteau. The observation ended when the UFO shot straight up out of sight. 35.

  • 35. Paris, France. Le Figaro. 7 October 54.

[Ref. js1:] JEAN SIDER:

Jean Sider gives a summary of the case, dated at October 2, at 09:30 P.M. He specifies that the Guillemoteau family saw that this round machine was rather bulky and was in lift not far from their farm in the Poitevin Marsh.

Jean Sider checked the assertions of Barthel and Brucker and discovered the following points:

The time of the observation is indeed 09:30 P.M., and at this time the sun is already long gone.

Barthel and Brucker say that Mrs. Guillemoteau told them that the phenomenon was far away, at more than one kilometer, but the newspaper the La Nouvelle République de Bordeaux et du Sud-Ouest for October 8, 1954, indicates on page 3 that the phenomenon had been at a few dozen meters of the farm of the Guillemoteau family.

Barthel and Brucker did not really speak in person to Mrs. Guillemoteau, it must be understood that the two authors only investigated using the phonebook to make their investigations, without going nowhere on location to meet witnesses.

Jean Sider informs that an investigation by Lumières Dans La Nuit discovered that when Barthel and Brucker said to have made their investigation, Mr. Guillemoteau, inhabitant of Ste Christine, was already deceased, and that Mrs. Guillemoteau, of Nessier, who really is one of the two witnesses, told Lumières Dans La Nuit that she has never be contacted by Barthel and Brucker neither in person not by phone. Jean Sider thinks that the journalists were victims of a confusion for the name Guillemoteau is very widespread in the area.

[Ref. go1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

Belgian ufologist Godelieve van Overmeire notes in her catalogue that in France, in 1954, October 2, in Nessier close to Benet, towards 09:30 p.m. close to La Rochelle, Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw an object of 2,50 m height by 5 m in diameter which hovered during several minutes 1 m above the ground, then rose vertically. Oil stains were found at this place.

The source is indicated as M. Figuet / J.L. Ruchon: "Ovni, Premier dossier complet..." Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979, p. 110 and "Jacques Vallée: "Chronique des apparitions ET" - DENOEL 1972 - COLL. J'AI LU - p. 267 who by mistake gives the date of October 3 at 11:00 p.m."

[Ref. go2:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

The Belgian ufologist indicates in her catalogue that in 1954, on October 6, in France, in La Rochelle, a metal disc, 5 m in diameter, is observed one meter above the ground.

She indicates that the source is M. Figuet / J.L. Ruchon: "Ovni, Premier dossier complet..." Alain Lefeuvre oub. 1979, p. 128.

[Ref. go2:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

The Belgian ufologist indicates in her catalogue that in 1954, on October 6, in France, in La Rochelle, a metal disc, 5 m in diameter, is observed one meter above the ground.

She indicates that the source is M. Figuet / J.L. Ruchon: "Ovni, Premier dossier complet..." Alain Lefeuvre oub. 1979, p. 128.

[Ref. tp1:] TED PHILLIPS:

Ted Phillips listed the case as a "top" case in his "preliminary list of top cases":

Report 10/2/54 Benet, France, 2130: 2 discs, 5 minutes, oily traces.

[Ref. ma1:] MARK CASHMAN:

Benet (France).

10/3/1954 13:00

Near La Rochelle. Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw an object, 2. 5 m high, 5 m diameter, hover for several minutes 1 m above ground, then rise vertically. Oily marks were found at the spot.

[Ref. lg1:] LOREN GROSS:

3 October. Nessier, France. (night?)

Red, circular, luminous, object

Michel wrote:

"The final observation was at Nessier, a village in the commune of Benet in the Vendee, 40 miles farther west (of Lusignan). M. and Mme. Guillemoteau noticed an object on the ground, at the edge of a swamp. It was circular, luminous, of a red color, and at their approach took off rapidly and disappeared. The following day the police went over the ground at these places and found 'oily spots.'" (xx.)

(xx.) Michel, Aime. flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery. p.131.

[Ref. dj1:] DONALD JONHSON:

Encounters with Aliens on this Day

October 3

1954 - Near La Rochelle, France at 11:00 p.m. Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw an object, five meters in diameter and 2.5 meters high, hovering for several minutes one meter above the ground. The UFO then rose vertically. Oily marks were found at the spot. (Sources: Aime Michel, Flying Saucers and the Straight Line Mystery, p. 131; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 216).

[Ref. jb1:] JEROME BEAU:

1954:

Tuesday, October 5

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Close to La Rochelle, Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau see a machine of 2 to 3 m height and 5 m diameter which stops at 1 m height, then goes up vertically. Oily traces are said to have been found in the grass (Vallée 1966).

[Ref. jb4:] JEROME BEAU - "TOP SECRET":

Tuesday, October 5, 23 p.m.: near La Rochelle, Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau see a craft 2 to 3 m in height and 5 meters in diameter, which stops at 1 m high, then rose vertically. Oily traces were reportedly found in the grass (Vallée 1966).

[Ref. bu1:] CLAUDE BURKEL - MAGAZINE "TOP SECRET":

On October 3, 1954 near La Rochelle, an object 5 meters in diameter and 2 meters in height 50 abandoned oily liquids.

[Ref. jb2:] JEROME BEAU:

Jérôme Beau indicate that on Saturday, October 2, 1954, "The evening? With the accesses of the hamlet of Nessier close to Benet (small village located at the east of Fontenay-le-Comte, the Vendée), Mr. Marcel Guillemoteau, of Sainte Christine, sees on the ground (in the west?), on the edge of a marsh, a circular luminous object of red color which, at his approach, flies away quickly and disappears. The following day, the gendarmes go on the spot and discover 'oil stains'.

Jérôme Beau indicates as sources: Articles de La Croix, Le Figaro et France-Soir for October 7, 1954 cited in Michel, A.: Mystérieux Objets Célestes, cited in Vallée, J., cited in Barthel, G. & Brucker, J.: La grande peur martienne, Les Nouvelles Editions Rationalistes, 1979, cited in LDLN n° 299, p. 34 cited in Choloux, Jérôme: "2. La vague de 1954" in "Les OVNIs en Vendée", Les Mystères de Vendée, 2007.

[Ref. mv1:] "LES MYSTERES DE VENDEE" WEBSITE:

In his case listing "UFOs in the Vendée", the author notes this case:

Benet, 2 October 1954

He specifies that Benet is a small village located at the east of Fontenay-le-Comte, that the observation occurred with the accesses of the hamlet of Nessier, and that it was variously appreciated by the various investigators who approached it, "some did not hesitate to speak about a confusion, but we will also see that certain investigators approached the case with an obvious dishonesty."

He indicates that there were several articles in big national dailies such as La Croix, Le Figaro or France-Soir for 7 October 1954, that Aimé Michel and Jacques Vallée inter alia began used without further investigating, dating it for example on October 3. The author comments on that this type of error is not a fault per se, that there are besides legion in the catalogues of observations of 1954 which are often only compilations of press articles and thus reproduce the same errors or mistypes.

He then quotes what Aimé Michel said in Mystérieux Objets Célestes:

Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau see on the ground, at the edge of a marsh, a circular luminous object of red color which, with at their approach, flies away quickly and disappears. The next day, the gendarmes go on the spot and discover "oil stains".

He indicates that 25 years later, two ufologists, Gerard Barthel and Jacques Brucker, published a book which claimed to summarize the entirety of the 1954 flap as confusions and hoaxes, under the title of "La Grande Peur Martienne", Nouvelles Editions Rationalistes, 1979.

He indicates that in that book, "which then caused devastations in the rows of the ufologists, B&B tackled the Benet case and explained it as a confusion with the setting sun, ensuring that they had met Mrs. Guillemoteau, witness of the time". He quotes the authors:

"Standard Account where only the witness can give us details allowing us to determine the subject. Let's specify that the facts occurred in Nessier, and that according to certain files it was 11 p.m., but about this detail, a doubt remains!"

"First detail brought by Mrs Guillemoteau during our interview: it was very far, at least 1 km! One loses in conjectures, about the dimensions of "the object", provided by the witnesses at the time. At such a distance, to give precise characteristics to something whose origin is unknown, either comes from extraordinary practice and a long practice, or is an arbitrary and unverifiable appreciation. The light, since she did not see an object at all, was close to a house. On our request, she described the phenomenon to us... as the setting sun! One can only quiver at the idea that this "UFO" was observed... towards the west, and that Mrs Guillemoteau does not remember the exact hour anymore."

"Were these Vendeans deceived by the sun? One cannot decide."

He indicates the source of the above, "La Grande Peur Martienne", page 183.

He then comments on: "One could at this stage of the file recognize the good foundation of such an analysis (we will see that in other cases this is impossible), but at the end of the Eighties the Investigation group of Lumières Dans La Nuit carried out a counter-investigation on several cases dealt with by Barthel & Brucker. It happens that the Benet case was part of these checking. The investigators met Mrs. Guillemoteau:

"She told us that the witness was in fact Mr. Marcel Guillemoteau, of Ste Christine, deceased since then. She never received the visit of an investigator, nor received a telephone call. The Guillemoteaus are very numerous in the Vendée and in Charentes. (cf LDLN 299 p.34)"

He concludes by indicating that the "book by Gerard Barthel and Jacques Brucker is in fact riddled of these investigations carried out without care, rushed over on the telephone and even frankly dishonest, and we will see more of their conclusions in other Vendean cases. It nevertheless remains true that the observation made in Benet, on October 2, 1954, remains a mystery."

[Ref. lc1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan indicates that in the Charente Maritime on October 5, 1954 at 23:00 hours, "Close to La Rochelle, a couple sees a craft from 2 to 3 m in height and 5 m in diameter which stops at 1 m of the ground, then goes up vertically. Oily traces were reportedly found in grass."

The source is indicated as "RR0 ** http://www.rr0.org".

[Ref. lc2:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan indicates that in Charente Maritime at La Rochelle on October 6, 1954, at 22:30 hours there was an observation of a metallic disc of five meters in diameter evolving one meter above the ground.

The source is indicated as "Ovni, Premier dossier complet... by Figuet M./ Ruchon J.L. ** Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979".

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 3 October 1954 at 23:00 in Benet, France, "Two discs seen for 5 minutes, oily traces on ground."

And: "Near La Rochelle, France at 11:00 p.m. Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw an object, five meters in diameter and 2.5 meters high, hovering for several minutes one meter above the ground. The UFO then rose vertically. Oily marks were found at the spot."

And: "Objects were observed. Traces found. Two discs, about 20 feet across, were observed by two witnesses, a married couple, in a swamp for five minutes (Guillemoteau)."

The sources are indicated as Michel, Aime, Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery, S. G. Phillips, New York, 1958; Bowen, Charles, The Humanoids: FSR Special Edition No. 1, FSR, London, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Computerized Catalog (N = 3073); Vallee, Jacques, Challenge to Science: The UFO Enigma, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Preliminary Catalog (N = 500), (in JVallee01); Vallee, Jacques, A Century of Landings (N = 923), (in JVallee04), Chicago, 1969; Schoenherr, Luis, Computerized Catalog (N = 3173); Hall, Richard H., The UFO Evidence, NICAP, Washington, 1964; Phillips, Ted R., Ted Phillips investigation files; Phillips, Ted R., Physical Traces Associated with UFO Sightings, CUFOS, Chicago, 1975; Hatch, Larry, *U* computer database, Author, Redwood City, 2002.

[Ref. ud2:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 3 October 1954 at 13:00 in Benet, France, "Object, 2.5 meters high, five meters diameter, hovered for several minutes one meter above ground. Explanation: Manmade."

And: "Near La Rochelle, France at 11:00 p.m. Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw a red glowing round object, five meters in diameter and 2.5 meters high, hovering for several minutes one meter above the ground. The UFO then rose vertically. Oily marks were found at the spot."

And: "Near La Rochelle. Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw an object, 2.5 meters high, five meters diameter, hover for several minutes one meter above ground, then rise vertically. Oily marks were found at the spot."

And: "An object was observed. Ground traces were found. One orange ball, about 20 feet across, was observed by one male witness on a farm briefly (Garreau). Two 5.5-foot-tall humanoids, each wearing a khaki suit, were seen."

The sources are indicated as Vallee, Jacques, Computerized Catalog (N = 3073); Vallee, Jacques, Challenge to Science: The UFO Enigma, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Preliminary Catalog (N = 500), (in JVallee01).

[Ref. dj2:] DONALD JONHSON:

Donald Johnson indicates that on October 3, 1954, "near La Rochelle, France at 11:00 p.m. Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw an object, five meters in diameter and 2.5 meters high, hovering for several minutes one meter above the ground. The UFO then rose vertically. Oily marks were found at the spot."

The sources are noted "Aime Michel, Flying Saucers and the Straight Line Mystery, p. 131; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 216)."

[Ref. ni1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":

*Oct. 2, 1954 - Near La Rochelle, France at 11:00 p.m. Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw a red glowing round object, five meters in diameter and 2.5 meters high, hovering for several minutes one meter above the ground. The UFO then rose vertically. Oily marks were found at the spot. (Sources: Aime Michel, Flying Saucers and the Straight Line Mystery, p. 131; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia, p. 216; Michel Figuet & Jean-Louis Ruchon, OVNI: Le premier dossier complet des rencontres rapprochees en France, p. 110). (Note: Vallee lists the date as October 3rd, but Figuet & Ruchon believe this is in error and that October 2nd is the correct date).

The note on the wrong date by this website did not prevent the author to add the same case a second time with the other date:

*Oct. 3, 1954 - Near La Rochelle, France at 11:00 p.m. Mr. and Mrs. Guillemoteau saw an object, five meters in diameter and 2.5 meters high, hovering for several minutes one meter above the ground. The UFO then rose vertically. Oily marks were found at the spot. (Sources: Aime Michel, Flying Saucers and the Straight Line Mystery, p. 131; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 216, case # 187).

[Ref. dc1:] DIDIER CHARNAY:

Didier Charnay informs that the newspaper Sud-Ouest for July 28, 2009 briefly published "new old cases in their section 'Sacrés Ovnis'", including the case in La Rochelle for October 6, 1954, and that the article is available on the [paying] website of the newspaper at www.sudouest.com/charente-maritime/actualite/article/661368/mil/4927770.html

[Ref. ub1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded this same case 9 times:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19541002 02.10.1954 Benet France CE II
19541003 03.10.1954 Nessier France Night CE II
19541003 03.10.1954 Nessier France CE II
19541003 03.10.1954 Nessier France 23.00 CE II
19541003 03.10.1954 Benet France 22.45 CE II
19541003 03.10.1954 Benet France 23.00 CE II
19541003 03.10.1954 Benet France 23.30 CE II
19541003 03.10.1954 Benet France CE II
19541005 05.10.1954 Nessier France 23.00 CE II

Notes:

Only Aimé Michel dates the case as of October 3, all the other previous sources give October 2.

Since Figuet and Ruchon entered the case twice with different dates and places, many others reproduced this error.

I have found no reliable sources indicating that the sighting was at 11:00 p.m.

On October 2, 1954, near La Rochelle, sunset was at 06:47 P.M. almost three hours before 09:30 p.m.

Explanations:

Not looked for yet.

Keywords:

(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

Nessier, Vendée, confusion, Guillemoteau, Gendarmes, Police, dimensions, duration, gleam, red, marsh, swamp, oil, landing, round, circular

Sources:

[---] indicates sources which I have not yet checked.

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