France 1954 -> Homeclick!
Cette page en françaisCliquez!

The 1954 French flap:

The index page for the 1954 French flap section of this site is here.

October 3, 1954, Hérissart, Somme:

Reference number for this case: 3-Oct-54-Hérissart. Thank you for including this reference number in any correspondence with me regarding this case.

Reports:

[Ref. ra1:] "RADAR" MAGAZINE:

PIERREGOT

"I was terribly afraid! Think about it, the saucer followed us during 10 km before disappearing in space at an unimaginable speed!". Mrs. Nelly Mansart, from Amiens, was returning by night from the village of Hérissart, by car, when an orange saucer, in the shape of a mushroom, gave her the chase at near-ground level at less than 200 meters of her car. 3 witnesses confirm her statements. Her 2 passengers, Mr. and Mrs. Delarouzée and her young girl, Nadège, who repeats: "I saw the large moon!"

[Photo caption:]
Mrs Mansart, grocer
Mr. Delarouzée, aged 30
Nadège Mansart, aged 3

[Ref. jg1:] JIMMY GUIEU:

This author indicates that 3 days after October 1st, 1954, Nelly Mansart, tradeswoman of Amiens, was returning from Hérissart in company of neighbors, Mr. and Mrs. Delarouzée.

They had just left Hérissart when they saw a sphere of bright luminosity in the sky, which once seen better revealed to be like a mushroom's rim of a sharp orange color, a diameter from 6 to 8 meters which let escape from its higher part flames going from a purple to a greenish color, and with kinds of cables or strings hanging under its bottom part.

Mrs. Mansart who was driving was anxious because the thing appeared to follow their travel, flying at some 150 meters of the car at near-ground level.

Mrs. Mansart explained that whenever they crossed a village, she lost the craft from sight but found it again at the exit of the village, and that they were followed like that during approximately 10 kilometers.

At the exit of the village of Pierregot, Mrs. Mansart stopped and awaited the apparatus. It stopped, and waited "while turning in spiral on some 300 or 400 meters."

When she drove again, the craft again followed, until Raineville in the accesses of Amiens where it definitively left them, leaving towards the West "to lose itself in the sky at an extraordinary speed."

[Ref. am1:] AIME MICHEL:

Aimé Michel reports that between 09:00 P.M. and 09:05 P.M. approximately on October 3, 1954, an observation took place on the secondary road 60 a little in the west of Hérissart and exactly 56 kilometers in the south-west of Marcoing.

The witnesses are Mrs. Nelly Mansart, living at 8, street of Marlière in Amiens, who was driving a car in which were the two other witnesses, Mr. and Mrs. Delarouzée, also of Amiens. The car left Hérissart and went to Amiens which is at 18 kilometers of the point of observation.

The car was going to take the junction on the left to go towards Amiens when the three people saw a luminous ball spreading a bright orange light in the sky at a low altitude. When they looked with more attention, the witnesses saw that the ball had a shape "similar to a mushroom's hat."

The higher part of this shape palpitated of changing colors going from purple to greenish, while two sort of short "cables" hung under the lower surface.

The witnesses evaluated the dimensions of the object as of 6 or 8 meters and its distance to 150 meters.

The phenomenon then descended almost at ground level while turning on the left as the car did and it started to follow them while always keeping the same distance of 150 meters. The witnesses were frightened when they saw that, and Mrs. Mansart accelerated to arrive as quickly as possible at the village of Rubempré at one kilometer from there, hoping that the object would be somehow intimidated at the sight of the houses and would cease following them.

And indeed, precisely while arriving at the village, the object changed direction and was lost from sight.

But at the exit of the village, the witnesses saw that the object was again behind them, almost on ground level the ground and at short distance, as if it had circumvented the village and joined the road again.

Increasingly frightened, the motorists hoped for reaching the next village, Pierregot, at two kilometers from there. On arrival at the village, the object again obliqued and disappeared.

Aimé Michel gives the account of Mrs. Mansart for the continuation of the events:

"At the exit of Pierregot, seeing that the object had once more joined us, I stopped. The "saucer" traveled for another 300 to 400 meters, then also stopped, manoeuvering in spirals at ground level. I waited a moment, then started again. It then took again its position and its pursuit."

"It is only at the entry in Rainneville, 10 kilometers before Amiens, that we saw it moving away, definitively this time. It took the direction of the west, accelerated, and disappeared in this direction at a tremendous speed."

Aimé Michel indicates that the chased proceeded on six kilometers in a little more than six minutes.

He specifies that this observation is with less than 5 minutes apart from the one in Rue at 60 kilometers from there, and that if it were a helicopter there would thus have been two of them. He points out that the two machines were observed close enough to distinguish these "cables" under them and that under these conditions it would have been astonishing not to distinguish just as well that would have been helicopters.

[Ref. mc1:] MICHEL CARROUGES:

The author indicates that on October 3, 1954, according to Aimé Michel page 192, in Hérissart (the Somme), at about 20:45, witnesses Mansart and Delarouzée see at low altitude a "mushroom hat" pulsating of changing colors, oscillating from purple to greenish, from which kinds of short "cables" hang.

[Ref. jv7:] JACQUES VALLEE:

Jacques Vallée indicates that on October 3, 1954, a few minutes after the Marcoing incident, and in the direction taken by the object, three residents of the town of Amiens saw a luminous ball of a brilliant orange color at low altitude, having the shape of a "mushroom hat." The report said that "The upper part of the 'mushroom' appeared to vibrate as it changed color from violet to greenish, while short 'cables' of some kind hung from the bottom surface."

[Ref. jv5:] JACQUES VALLEE:

216 -002.25720 50.02740 03 10 1954 21 05 107 (HERISSART-SOMME) F 1313 3C *192

[Ref. hd1:] HENRI DURRANT:

The author indicates that on October 3, 1954 in Hérissart, a saucer of a shape compared to a mushroom's hat was seen. Kind of short cables hang from its bottom.

[Ref. bb1:] GERARD BARTHEL AND JACQUES BRUCKER:

The two authors make fun of the "candor of the ufologists", "for if they had checked at least in the weekly magazine "Radar", which reported the case of Hérissart in "one of its October issues", they would have read there that when the investigators of this newspaper questioned the witnesses, they asked "the kid which was in the car" if she had also seen "the object?" They quote the answer: "Yes Sir, me too, I saw the big moon!" and they question: "Isn't it true anymore that chidren always speak the truth?"

[Ref. lg1] LOREN GROSS:

Amiens, France. (Approximately 8:33 p.m.) [October 3, 1954]

A brightly-lit orange-colored "mushroom hat" sailed into view near the town of Amiens about 8:30 p.m. One witness was quoted as saying :1he upper part of-the 'mushroom' appeared to vibrate as it changed color from violet to greenish, while short tables' of some kind hung from the bottom surface." 28.

"Three other witnesses in the area, Nine. Nelly Mansart and M. and Mrs. Delarouxe, had just left Herissart village on a drive to Amiens when they spotted the UFO descending out of the clouds. The thing dropped to the ground about 150 yards from them and at that range appeared to be an object 25 feet in diameter and "mushroomed-shaped." After reaching ground level, the strange object followed their car for a time and then took off in the direction of the village of Riannville. 29.

  • 26. Vallee, Jacques. Anatomy of a Phenomenon. Chicago,111.: Henry Regnery,1965. pp.216-217.
  • 27. Ibid.
  • 28. Ibid p.216.
  • 29. Michel, Aime. Flying Saucers and the Straight Line Mystery, p.115.

[Ref. jc1:] JACQUES COSTAGLIOLA:

The author indicates that on October 3, 1954, on the D60 from 18 to 10 kilometers of Amiens the three occupants of a car were followed, except in the crossings of villages, by an orange disc from where sorts of cables hung. Another car on the RN 40 is followed

[Ref. go1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

Godelieve van Overmeire indicates that in 1954, on October 3, in France, in Hérissart, Mrs. Mansart and the Delarouzée couple went home by car, saw a bright sphere in the sky which better observed seemed to them a sharp orange mushroom flange. This machine followed the car at 150 meters. At the crossing of the village the machine circumvented the village and awaited the motorists at the exit.

The source is indicated as Jimmy Guieu dans "Black-out sur les S.V." - Fleuve Noir 1956 - p. 180, 181.

Godelieve van Overmeire indicates that another version is: "like a grinding stone... a jellyfish..." because the object lets hang at its lower part kinds of short cables, of the rods or antennas.

This source is indicated as Henry Durrant in "Premières enquêtes sur les Humanoïdes ET" - Laffont 1977 - p. 198.

Godelieve van Overmeire indicates that still another version is: "IN REALITY: At 21:30 the crescent Moon set down in the south-west. Optical illusion caused by a stratus layer. (M. Figuet / J.L. Ruchon: "OVNI, premier dossier complet... " Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979, p. 657 to 660)."

[Ref. lg1] LOREN GROSS:

3 October Between Herissart and Amiens, France, (about 8:45 p.m.)

This case is being included because it has more detail than the account in the monograph UFOs A History 1954 October, page 6.

According to Aime Michel:

"Several minutes after 8 45, while the Marcoing witnesses saw the object disappear toward the southwest, an automobile driven by Mme. Nelly Mansart, of No.8, Rue de la Marliere, Amiens (Somme), was leaving Herissart. With Mme Mansart were two other Amiens residents, M. and Mme Delarouzee. As the car was about to turn left into the Amiens road, the three motorists suddenly saw, at low altitude, a luminous ball in the sky, its color a brilliant orange. On closer observation its shape seemed to be 'like a mushroom hat.' "The upper part of the 'mushroom' appeared to vibrate as it changed color from violet to greenish, while short 'cables' of some kind hung from the bottom surface. The witnesses estimated the object's dimensions at 20 or 25 feet, its distance at 150 yards.

"Mme. Mansart made the turn at the crossroad. She then perceived that the object, now almost at ground level, had also turned and was following her car, always at the same distance. The three motorists grew frightened Mme Mansart speeded up, the sooner to reach Rubempre, a village about a mile away, in hopes that the mysterious object would be intimidated by the houses and go away. And in fact it slanted off and disappeared. But hardly were the travelers clear of the village than they again saw behind them, still almost level with the ground and almost no distance away, the tenacious 'mushroom.' It had detoured the village, and now regained the road!

"The next village was Pierregot a mile or so distant. The three motorists began to wonder what this importunate follower wanted of them, and how it would end. At the outskirts of Pierregot, the same maneuver: it slanted off and disappeared. Mme Mansart continues.

"'As we left Pierregot, seeing that the object had rejoined us once again, I stopped the car. The 'saucer' continued on for three or four hundred yards, and then it stopped too, going around in circles, almost on the ground. I waited a moment, then started the car again. It again took up its position and pursuit.

"'It was only as we entered Rainneville, six miles from Amiens, that we saw the "saucer" leave us, and this time for good. It turned off toward the west, picked up speed, and disappeared with dizzying rapidity in that direction.'

'This astounding adventure all occurred in four or five miles of driving, and in less than six minutes." (xx)

  • (xx) Michel, Aime. Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery pp. 115-116.

[Ref. ma1:] MINA ALLACH:

The author indicates that Toselli cites a pursuit of motorists over 10 km in the region of Amiens on October 3, 1954 by a flying scarlet ball flying at very low level at 150 meters from the vehicle, diving to it at one moment, stopping when witnesses did, spiraling and changing shape before moving away at high speed in the sky; which was actually the moon.

[Ref. dc1] DOMINIQUE CAUDRON:

Dominique Caudron indicates that the catalogue of 800 cases published in 1970 by Maurice Santos, is a good example of what one should not do; he indicates to extract from it the list of the cases of October 3, 1954; which he knows well as he had investigated into these cases of his area of Nord. For each case, below the text of the Santos catalogue, he states what should have been written, and the explanation after analysis, when there is one.

Santos wrote that for this case #528 of October 3, 1954, October 3, 1954 in Hérissart: 4 motorists are followed at 150 meters by a luminous flying saucer during 10 km.

In fact, Dominique Caudron says, "at about 9 p.m., from Hérissart to Rainneville, 80, a motorist and his three passengers were accompanied on 10 km by a flying saucer."

Dominique Caudron indicates that this was actually the moon.

Santos wrote that for this case #544 of October 3, 1954, of "Various Forms" there had been in Amiens an Unknown Flying Object in the shape of jellyfish-saucer observed at low altitude.

Dominique Caudron says that it is the same case as case #528.

He notes that the numbering of the cases by Santos seemed a good idea, but that it prevents the evolution of the catalogue, whose numbering becomes incoherent at the first update: "For example, this catalogue contains only 10 cases for the area of the Nord, whereas we know 48 of them. How to place the 38 others?"

[Ref. ub1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded this case 6 times instead of one:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
18691">19541003 03.10.1954 Amiens France
19541003 03.10.1954 Herissart France 21.00 CE I
19541003 03.10.1954 Herissart France 20.58 CE I
19541003 03.10.1954 Herissart France CE I
19541003 03.10.1954 Herissart France CE I
19541003 03.10.1954 Herissart France CE I

Explanations:

Hérissart is at the latitude 50° 01' 41" North and thelongitude 02° 25' 02" East.

The moon was at this time there at 224° 37' 19.8" and an elevation of 2° 17' 45.6", very low on the horizon, and in its last quarter.

Mars was at 201° 27' 51.3" and an elevation of 12° 9' 12.6".

Keywords:

(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

Hérissart, Somme, Nelly Mansart, Delarouzée, saucer, disc, luminous, orange, chase, road, car, duration, multiple, close, fast, manoeuvres, spirals, moon

Sources:

[---] indicates sources which I have not yet checked.

Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross March 17, 2007 First published.
1.0 Patrick Gross January 9, 2009 Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [mc1], [hd1], [go1].
1.1 Patrick Gross February 11, 2010 Addition [jc1].
1.2 Patrick Gross June 21, 2010 Addition [jv5].
1.3 Patrick Gross July 6, 2010 Addition [jv7].
1.4 Patrick Gross September 27, 2014 Addition [ma1].
1.5 Patrick Gross October 14, 2016 Addition [dc1].
1.6 Patrick Gross December 16, 2016 Additions [lg1], [lg2], [ub1].

Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict



 Feedback  |  Top  |  Back  |  Forward  |  Map  |  List |  Home
This page was last updated on December 16, 2016.