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ACUFO is my comprehensive catalog of cases of encounters between aircraft and UFOs, whether they are "explained" or "unexplained".

The ACUFO catalog is made of case files with a case number, summary, quantitative information (date, location, number of witnesses...), classifications, all sources mentioning the case with their references, a discussion of the case in order to evaluate its causes, and a history of the changes made to the file.

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France, on June 8, 1943:

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The American ufologist Peter Davenport set up in the 2000s a website, the National UFO Reporting Center (NUFORC), allowing people to submit, anonymously or not, their testimony of UFO sightings, which were then recorded in a database and visible on this website.

There is a testimony received in 2003 about a 5-minutes sighting with the approximate date of June 8, 1943, at 2 p.m. local time, somewhere over France:

The reporting witness told that he was a left waist gunner on a B-17, when the 7-men crew saw a light, the altimeter "went crazy and kept going from sea lvl to 10000 ft even though we were flying higher"; none of the other instruments failed according the what the pilot told.

The thing, described as "lights on object, aura or haze around object", stayed stayed with the plane for about 5 minutes.

The witness said that the gunners wanted to shoot it but the pilot said "if it was hostile it would have killed us by now." The flight engineer thought it was a German secret weapon.


Temporal data:

Date: June 8, 1943
Time: 02:00 p.m.
Duration: 5 minutes.
First known report date: 2003
Reporting delay: 6 décennies.

Geographical data:

Country: France

Witnesses data:

Number of alleged witnesses: 4 to 7
Number of known witnesses: 1
Number of named witnesses: 0

Ufology data:

Reporting channel: Web report to NUFORC.
Visibility conditions: Day.
UFO observed: Yes.
UFO arrival observed: ?
UFO departure observed: ?
UFO action: Stays with plane for 5 minutes.
Witnesses action: Thought of firing but did not.
Photographs: No.
Sketch(s) by witness(es): No.
Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): No.
Witness(es) feelings: ?
Witnesses interpretation: Non-hostile, German secret weapon.


Sensors: [DD] Visual: 4 to 7.
[ ] Airborne radar:
[ ] Directional ground radar:
[ ] Height finder ground radar:
[ ] Photo:
[ ] Film/video:
[ ] EM Effects:
[X] Failures: Possibly altimeter went wild.
[ ] Damages:
Hynek: DD
Armed / unarmed: Armed, 11 7.62 mm machine guns.
Reliability 1-3: 1
Strangeness 1-3: 3
ACUFO: Possible extraterrestrial craft, unknown credibility.




NUFORC Sighting 33297

Occurred: 1943-06-08 14:00:00 Local
Location: France (over, somewhere), , France
Shape: Light
Duration: 5 min.
No of observers: 7
Reported: 2003-11-21 16:38:26 Pacific
Posted: 2003-11-26 00:00:00
Characteristics: Lights on object, Aura or haze around object, Aircraft nearby, Electrical or magnetic effects

light next to my b-17

i was a left waist gunner on a B-17. over france we saw a light,the altemeter went crazy and kept going from sea lvl to 10000 ft even though we were flying higher, but none of the other instruments faild or so the pilot said;it stayed with us for about 5 min. we wanted to shoot it but the pilot said "if it was hostile it would have killed us by now. teh engenner thought it was a kraut secret weapon.


Date is approximate. PD

Aircraft information:

The US B-17 "Flying Fortress" was a heavy bomber fitted with five 7.62 machine guns for its defense against enemy fighter planes.

B-17 formation.



The issue with the report is of course that it is only a web report, hence its credibility remains unknown.

The pilot's comment, "if it was hostile it would have killed us by now" is similar to that of the witness in the Klagenfurt case of November 24, 1944.


Possible extraterrestrial craft, unknown credibility.

Sources references:

* = Source is available to me.
? = Source I am told about but could not get so far. Help needed.

File history:


Main author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history:

Version: Create/changed by: Date: Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross January 18, 2024 Creation, [nuc1].
1.0 Patrick Gross January 18, 2024 First published.

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