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September 28, 1954, Saint-Nicolas-de-Redon, Ille-et-Vilaine:

Reference number for this case: 28-sep-54-StNicolas. Thank you for including this reference number in any correspondence with me regarding this case.

Reports:

[Ref. lm1:] "LE MERIDIONAL" NEWSPAPER:

Carrousel of "saucers" in the sky of Dauphiné

LYON. -- In the departments of the Rhone, Isère, Drôme and Savoy, many people claim to have seen, these last days, with more or less clarity, craft having either the shape of cigars, or those of discs.

In the area of the Arbresle, one of these witnesses, director of a music-hall, stated to have filmed one of these mysterious apparatuses which evolved at a height estimated by him as of approximately 700 meters. One will thus know, after development of the footage, if it was or was not an optical illusion.

Close to Feyzin (the Isère) a young man is said to have seen in the countryside, not far from the ground, a machine having the shape of a dome from where spouted out a very sharp light. The witness had compared it with that caused by the combustion of magnesium. The craft, suddenly, went up vertically while leaving a shower of sparks and disappeared.

Inhabitants of Chabeuil stated to have seen a flying saucer evolving above the countryside.

Lastly, in Savoy, close to the lake of Le Bourget, above Mount Revard, several motorists, on the whole about fifteen people, simultaneously saw an apparatus having the shape of a disc, that evolved during approximately four minutes, to then disappear suddenly.

One of the witnesses, a doctor of Chambéry, is a former artillery observer. He carefully wrote up the observations and drew a diagram reproducing the travel of the mysterious apparatus.

A "SAUCERS" FOLLOWS A TRAIN IN THE ILLE-ET-VILAINE...
The drivers gets ill

REDON (Ille-et-Vilaine). -- Misters Gérard, mechanic, and Paroux, driver, who operated a wildcat engine coming from Nantes, saw, whereas they passed at the locality "La Butte Rouge", community of Saint-Nicolas-de-Besson (Ille-et-Vilaine), a machine which rose from the nearby marshes.

This craft, of a certain length, which was followed of a luminous trail, flew during ten second above the machine and disappeared in the sky.

While the mechanic preserved all his calm, the driver, on the other hand, was so frightened that he fell sick and had to pass a medical examination yesterday morning.

DUTCH TESTIMONYS ON AERIAL PHENOMENA

LA HAYE. -- The aerial phenomena which currently appears above Europe did not fail to visit the Netherlands.

Among the recently reported testimonies on the passage of flying saucers above the Dutch territory, it is necessary to quote that of a citizen of Schiedam (an important center of juniper production) which claimed to have seen a rather large object, circular and luminous, moving towards the west. Its fiancée who accompanied it corroborated his statements.

Less recent but more impressive, is the account of the captain of "Grote Beer" Mr J.-P. Boshoff, of the Holland - United States line.

The object detected on the open sea and observed by himself and his five officers using all the optical equipment on board, was the "size of a half-moon" and also circular and luminous.

The captain adamantly excluded the possibility that it can be a weather balloon.

Initially motionless, the disc, after a few moments, moved towards the west to disappear behind the clouds at an altitude of approximately 14.000 meters.

[Ref. vm1:] "VAR-MATIN REPUBLIQUE" NEWSPAPER:

In the manner of Wells heroes

A farmer in the Vienne saw advancing towards him an interplanetary diver

In the Lyonese, a Parisian filmed a "flying cigar"

Châtellerault, September 29 -. Mr. Yves David, 28-year-old, farmer in Broudoux, community of Verneuil-sur-Vienna, stated to have seen advancing towards him, on the road from Cenon to Vouneuil, on September 19 at 10 p.m., a kind of diver.

The latter, he says, came to caress his arm, emitted unintelligible sounds and withdrew towards a craft (that Mr. David cannot describe). A green beam of light was projected in his direction, nailing him on the spot, then the machine disappeared in the sky vertically, without any noise. Mr. David states that initially he did not want to tell anything of this weird encounter for fear of ridicule. He however informed a friend of his, asking him whether other people had seen the "diver". That's how the country knew about it.

Air carrousel in the Lyonese

Lyon, September 29. -- Between September 15 and 20, several people in the Lyons area, announced to have seen flying saucers. A 15-year-old young man, Mr. Roland M... says: "On the 15th at approximately 11 p.m., I was within approximately 200 meters of the fort of Feyzin (the Isère) when my attention was caught by a white light. I was then amazed to see, detached in the sky, ten meters above the ground, a dark spot from where a sharp light similar to the combustion of a magnesium spot emerged."

The black "shape" seemed slightly elliptic.

Arrived at about fifty meters of this "space ship", I was amazed to hear a deaf noise like that of a wet rocket, I even saw at the same time a shower of sparks spout out of the lower part of the craft. Then all of a sudden, like a rocket, it rose at a tremendous speed, perhaps 4000 or 5000 km/h." In addition, residents of Chaudelas [sic] (the Ardeche) saw on September 17 in the sky, a craft of the shape of a torpedo with the front more luminous than the rest. Was it of an aerolith or an interplanetary apparatus? It will never be known. Lastly, in Lyons, Mrs. J T... indicates that on the 18th at 3:55 a.m., she saw a craft which went back in the sky vertically at a vertiginous pace.

Another testimony, perhaps the most important, was provided to us by Mr. René Valery, artistic director of the Olympia in Paris. Mr. Valery was in Lyon and he stated to us that he had, as well as his wife, sighted a curious "cigar" whereas they were, on Thursday 16, in Savigny, in the Rhone. "It was approximately 6 p.m., he told us. We were walking, when we saw a craft at approximately 700 or 800 m of altitude. It went up vertically without the least engine noise."

Behind it, it left a broad trail of white smoke. It could not be a matter, in my opinion, he still told us, of a jet plane, I would have heard the whistling sound, because of the proximity of the machine. Moreover, this cigar had by no means the shape of a jet."

Mr. Valery, who does not seem to be able to admit, in spite of the testimony of his senses, that he saw a flying saucer, was carrying an 8 mm movie camera. He hastened to film the evolutions of the aerial object.

Perhaps he will know Thursday, while going to get his developed film, if he were as well as his wife, the subject of an hallucination or if, on the contrary, it was really of one of these famous saucers. He waits for Thursday without impatience, the more so as the visibility was not very good and that he fears to have perhaps missed his "saucer".

Let us add that the saucers are not an invention of our century. Indeed, an extract of the memories of the Emulation society of the Jura, for 1864, under the title "Flaming globes" reports the following lines:

"On January 20, 1859 at 04:35 a.m., by a rather strong rain, but a calm and a very black night, the atmosphere was suddenly illuminated by a very bright white light which made it possible to distinguish from far away the objects with a great accuracy. This light was due to a luminous sphere slipping through space from the south to the north, at a great speed. Large numbers of people who, frightened, left their house, believed in a fire. This phenomenon was seen from Lyon to Strasbourg." [Perfect description of a meteor.]

Four other observations of this kind, but less remarkable, are noted on the registers at the following dates: January 10, 1847, November 13 and 17, 1848, and August 11, 1850.

"They must be distinguished from the incandescent spheres which are seen during storms [ball lightning], since their appearance always takes place by a calm weather, without detonation and giving a sharp light."

At the sight of a flying saucer, a locomotive driver falls sick.

MM. Gérard, mechanic and Paroux, driver, who led a wildcat locomotive engine, coming from Nantes, saw yesterday evening, whereas they passed by the location "La Butte Rouge", community of St Nicolas-de-Redon (the Ille and Vilaine), a machine which rose from nearby marshes. This machine, of a certain length, which was followed of a luminous trail, flew during ten seconds above the locomotive and disappeared in the sky. Whereas the mechanic kept his cool, the driver on the other hand, was so frightened that he fell sick and had to undergo a medical examination this morning.

[Ref. mo1:] "LE MONDE" NEWSPAPER:

FLYING SAUCERS
and the dispiples
of the Christ of Montfavet

The flying saucers continue with obstinacy their prospection of the French sky, in particular, during these last twenty-four hours, above the area of Dauphiné. Without one being able to predict yet big things on the intentions of their occupants, their sympathy to the race of men appears acquired. Undoubtedly, only the fear of a hostile welcome makes them still hesitate to make closer contacts with the Earthmen.

Thus a farmer of the Vienne, Mr. Yves David, living in Vouneuil-sur-Vienne, revealed yesterday that a "celestial diver", met by chance on the road, had carressed his arm" while utterring unintelliggibles sounds". But, probably disappointed by the little eagerness of Mr. David to tie relations, he had gone up in its machine and had disappeared almost instantaneously in the sky...

An inhabitant of Valence, Mrs. L..., made a similar encounter yesterday. Unfortunately for our knowledge of things Martians, Mrs. L..., seized with terror, hid behind a hedge and closed her eyes. When she reopened them a little later, it was to see rising from the field which bordered the path a luminous disc emitting a whistling sound...

A locomotive driver, Mr. Paroux, was no less frightened than Mrs. L... by seeing the other evening above the marshes of Saint-Nicolas-de-Redon (the Ille-et-Vilaine) a mysterious machine which followed a luminous trail. He fell sick from that and had to pass a medical examination...

Optical errors? Hallucinations? No, answer the disciples of the Christ of Montfavet, who have just stated that these flying saucers of which everyone makes fun are the irrefutable proof that their guide, George Roux, is really the Christ making a second coming...

Nobody so far had thought of that...

[Ref. hw1:] HAROLD T. WILKINS:

The author indicates that in 1954, at Nantes in France, a driver and fireman of a train watched for ten seconds a saucer ascending perpendicularly into sky, and the fireman had to be treated for shock.

[Ref. am1:] AIME MICHEL:

Aimé Michel indicates that on September 28, 1954 in the evening in Saint-Nicolas-of-Redon one of the most spectacular observations of the time took place in the evening, at a time in the night he could not get specified:

A train rolled on the railway from Nantes to Vannes, with Mr. Gerard as mechanic, and Mr. Paroux as driver.

While the train rolled at a low pace and arrived at the place called La Butte du Rouge, in Saint-Nicolas-of-Redon, Mr. Paroux suddenly exclaimed: "Looks there! What is this?"

There was in the very close marsh, at near ground level, "an elongated craft, or a circular dish", which flew quickly while taking altitude. It was luminous, of a red almost purple, and it was coming right at the train head. It soon caught up with the train, and during ten seconds it followed it while flying above it at hardly a few meters.

The machine then accelerated and disappeared towards the west at a vertiginous speed, and during a few seconds still, the clouds were illuminated of a violet gleam.

The driver was crushed by fear and shaked all over, and Mr. Gerard had to replace him until the arrival and had to lead him to his bed, where there remained several days with a nervous crisis and fever.

[Ref. jv6:] JACQUES VALLEE:

Jacques Vallée indicates that in France on September 28, 1954, a report said that a tramp locomotive was running on a railway line from Nantes to Vannes, when in the marsh close to the tracks a circular, flat, luminous, dark red, tinged with violet machine was in rapid flight just above the ground.

It soon reached the locomotive, flying only a few yards above it, then it accelerated and disappeared toward the west at a terrific speed, while the clouds continued to be illuminated by a violet light for a few seconds.

The fireman, bewildered, was trembling so much that his place had to be taken until they reached the station, and he had to be helped to his bed and for several days he suffered from nervous shock.

[Ref. jv5:] JACQUES VALLEE:

157 002.07720 47.64600 28 09 1954 23 00 201 (ST NICOLAS REDON) F 0012 C 152

[Ref. jv1:] JACQUES VALLEE:

163

Sep. 28, 1954, 11:10 P.M. Saint Nicolas de Redon (France).

At "La Butte Rouge" two railroad engineers, Bernard and Potraux, who were bringing a locomotive from Nantes to Auray, saw a dark object take off with a purple glow and follow them for 15 sec before veering off. Potraux had to see a doctor. (Le Parisien, L'Aurore, Combat, September 30, 1954, 23; M 95; Anatomy 70.)

[Ref. jv2:] JACQUES VALLEE:

The author indicates that on September 28, 1954, two railroad engineers bringing back an train engine from Nantes to Auray saw close to Saint-Nicolas-of-Redon at "La Butte Rouge" a dark object which flew away, shining of a light crimson, and following their engine.

[Ref. gl1:] CHARLES GARREAU AND RAYMOND LAVIER:

The two authors note that in the Ille-et-Vilaine, September 28, 1954, according to a dispatch of the A.F.P. and their personal files, mechanic Gerard and driver Paroux, who lead a locomotive coming from Nantes, saw a craft rise from the marshes close to the railway, whereas they pass to the locality "La Butte Rouge", on the community of Saint-Nicolas-of-Redon. The craft was luminous, of a dark reed leaning on the purple, and dove in direction of the locomotive, which it caught up with. During a few seconds it hovered a few meters above it, then it accelerated suddenly and moved away at high speed.

Gérard remained calm but his companion was so frightened that he fell sick and had to undergo a medical examination. He remained confined to bed during several days with a strong fever.

[Ref. jo1:] JEAN-FRANCOIS BOEDEC:

The author notes that a few days before the case in Loctudy of October 5, 1954, Mr. Gerard, mechanic and Mr. Paroux, driver, led a wildcat engine coming from Nantes, and were passing at the locality "La Butte Rouge", community of Saint Nicolas de Redon in the Ille-et-Vilaine, when they saw a circular craft that rose from nearby marshes.

The author indicates that the machine was of "a certain length", that it was followed of a luminous trail, and flew during ten seconds above the engine to then "disappear in the sky." The mechanic stayed calm, but the driver was so frightened that he fell sick and had to undergo a medical examination the next day morning. He adds that "the accent of the witnesses seemed to be that of the truth..."

[Ref. jg1:] JEAN-FRANCOIS GILLES:

French ufologist Jean-François Gilles had established a computerized catalogue of landings on the French territoty between September 26 and October 18, 1954 in order to study if their geographical distribution were the fact of the chance or not.

UFO LANDINGS ON THE CONTINENTAL TERRITORY OF FRANCE
FROM SEPTEMBER 26, 1954 TO OCTOBER 18, 1954

ICOD Designation (57) Date JV4 JV1 COMMENTS
008 0560 ST-NICOLAS-DE-REDON RF44 540928 163 157 CE3

ICOD is an internal code of this listing. (57) refers to column 57 of the Condon group's computerized UFOCAT, where RF is France and the number is the département. JV4 and JV1 are case numbers in Jacque Vallée's Magonia listing and "Passport to Magonia" book. CE2, CE3 refers to the Hynek classification.

V F G
ICOD Longitude Latitude Longitude Latitude Longitude Latitude
0560 +2.073 47.646 +2.060 47.645 +2.060 47.646

V,F,G are codes for people who determined the coordinates: V = Jacques Vallée, ufologist, F = Jean Charles Fumoux, officer of the French Air Force, G = Jean François Gille, ufologist.

[Ref. go1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

The Belgian ufologist indicates that in 1954, on September 28, in France, in St Nicolas de Redon, "At about 23:10 with at 'la Butte Rouge' two employees of the SNCF, Emile Gerard and Victor Paroux (and not: Bernard and Potraux), who brought back a locomotive from Nantes to Auray, saw a dark object take off while producing a violet gleam and follow them during 15 seconds before moving away suddenly while changing course. Mr. Paroux was so frightened that he fell sick and had to see a doctor."

The sources are noted "Jacques Vallée: 'Chronique des apparitions ET' - DENOEL 1972 - J'AI LU COLL. - p. 262" and "M. FIGUET/J.L. RUCHON: 'Ovni, le premier dossier complet..' - Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979, p. 93, 94".

[Ref. dj1:] DONALD JOHNSON:

Encounters With Aliens On This Day

September 28

[...]

1954 - At 11:10 p.m. near St. Nicolas de Redon, France two railroad engineers, Emile Gerard, age 49, and Victor Paroux, age 40, were bringing a locomotive from Nantes to Auray. When they reached "La Butte Rouge" they saw a dark object take off with a purple glow and follow them for 10-15 seconds before veering off. Mr. Paroux was so agitated he had to see a doctor. (Source: Le Parisien, September 30, 1954; Aime Michel, A propos des Soucoupes Volantes, p. 112; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia, p. 212-213; Michel Figeut & Jean-Louis Ruchon, OVNI: Le premier dossier complet des rencontres rapprochees en France, pp. 93-94).

[Ref. gd1:] GEOFF DITTMAN:

Witness: Two railroad engineers, Bernard and Potraux

Location: Saint Nicolas de Redon, France

Date: September 28, 1954

Time: 23:10

The engineers’s train were followed by an object for approximately 15 seconds. Potraux "had to see a doctor." (Vallee, Passport to Magonia #163)

[Ref. jb1:] JEROME BEAU:

September 1954

28

23:10 In Saint-Nicolas-de-Redon (France), at "la Butte Rouge" Bernard and Potraux, 2 employees of the SNCF, bring back a locomotive from Nantes to Auray, when they see a dark object take off while producing a violet gleam and follow them during 15 s before moving away suddenly while changing course. Potraux had to see a doctor.

The sources are noted as: "Le Parisien, L'Aurore, Combat, September 30, 1954"; "Vallée, J., Anatomy 70"; "Vallée, J., case #26, 'Rapport sur l'analyse de 200 observations documentées faites en 1954'"

[Ref. lc1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan indicates that in the Loire Atlantique in St Nicolas de Redon on September 28, 1954 at 23:10, "At 'la Butte Rouge,' two employees of the S.N.C.F. who brought back a locomotive from Nantes to Auray, saw a dark object, of a certain length, take off from a marsh while producing a luminous violet trail and follow them during 15 seconds before moving away suddenly while changing course. One of the witnesses had to see a doctor."

The sources are noted: "Liste des cas Magonia by Jacques Vallée", "Les OVNI vus de près by Gross Patrick ** http://ufologie.net", "Ovni, Premier dossier complet... by Figuet M./ Ruchon J.L. ** Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979".

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 28 September 1954, in France, at 23:10 in St Nicolas De Redon, "An object was sighted that had an appearance and performance beyond the capability of known earthly aircraft. One object was observed by two experienced male witnesses on a farm for a few minutes (Bernard; Gerard)."

And: "At 11:10 p.m. near St. Nicolas de Redon, France two railroad engineers, Emile Gerard, age 49, and Victor Paroux, age 40, were bringing a locomotive from Nantes to Auray. When they reached "La Butte Rouge" they saw a dark object take off with a purple glow and follow them for 10-15 seconds before veering off. Mr. Paroux was so agitated he had to see a doctor."

The sources are listed as Michel, Aime, Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery, S. G. Phillips, New York, 1958; Sparks, Brad, Computer Catalog of Type 9 Cases (N=150); Bowen, Charles, The Humanoids: FSR Special Edition No. 1, FSR, London, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Computerized Catalog (N = 3073); Vallee, Jacques, Challenge to Science: The UFO Enigma, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Preliminary Catalog (N = 500), (in JVallee01); Vallee, Jacques, A Century of Landings (N = 923), (in JVallee04), Chicago, 1969; Schoenherr, Luis, Computerized Catalog (N = 3173), Hatch, Larry, *U* computer database, Author, Redwood City, 2002.

[Ref. ud2:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 28 September 1954, in France, at 23:10 in Saint Nicolas de Redon, "A dark object with a purple glow. Explanation: Birds."

And: "At "La Butte Rouge" two railroad engineers, Bernard and Potraux, who were bringing a locomotive from Nantes to Auray, saw a dark object take off with a purple glow and follow them for 15 seconds before veering off. Potraux had to see a doctor."

And: "A flying disc was observed and photographed. It moved with a falling-leaf motion."

And: "One disc, about 10 feet across, was observed by one witness at an airport for over four minutes (Guyard; Martinet). One dwarf, wearing a diver's suit, was seen."

The sources are listed as Michel, Aime, Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery, S. G. Phillips, New York, 1958; Lorenzen, Coral E., Flying Saucer Occupants, Signet T3205, New York, 1967; Lorenzen, Coral E., Encounters with UFO Occupants, Berkley Medallion, New York, 1976, ISBN:425-03093-8; Plantier, Jean, La Propulsion des Soucoupes Volantes, Mame, 1955; Vallee, Jacques, Computerized Catalog (N = 3073); Vallee, Jacques, Challenge to Science: The UFO Enigma, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Preliminary Catalog (N = 500), (in JVallee01); Schoenherr, Luis, Computerized Catalog (N = 3173); Binder, Otto, What We Really Know About Flying Saucers, Fawcett T1863, Greenwich, 1967; Olsen, Thomas M., The Reference for Outstanding UFO Sighting Reports, UFOIRC, Riderwood, 1966; Hatch, Larry, *U* computer database, Author, Redwood City, 2002.

[Ref. wi1:] "WIKIPEDIA" (FR):

On September 28, 1954 a case of observation of UFO was reported in the press at La Butte Rouge, the drivers of a train saw a luminous machine rising from the marshes, it caught up with the engine and during ten seconds it followed it while flying over it at a few meters hardly.

The source is headlined "Un OVNI à la Butte Rouge (Archive)" and is a hyperlink pointing at my page.

[Ref. ni1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":

*Sep. 28, 1954 - At 11:10 p.m. near St. Nicolas de Redon, France two railroad engineers, Emile Gerard, age 49, and Victor Paroux, age 40, were bringing a locomotive from Nantes to Auray. When they reached "La Butte Rouge" they saw a dark object take off with a purple glow and follow them for 10-15 seconds before veering off. Mr. Paroux was so agitated he had to see a doctor. (Source: Le Parisien, September 30, 1954; Aime Michel, A propos des Soucoupes Volantes, p. 112; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia, p. 212-213; Michel Figuet & Jean-Louis Ruchon, OVNI: Le premier dossier complet des rencontres rapprochees en France, pp. 93-94).

[Ref. ub1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded this case 10 times:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19540928 28.09.1954 Redon st Nicolas France CE I
19540928 28.09.1954 Redon France CE I
19540928 28.09.1954 St. Nicolas Redon France 23.00 CE I
19540928 28.09.1954 St. Nicolas Redon France CE I
19540928 28.09.1954 St. Nicolas Redon France CE I
19540928 28.09.1954 St. Nicolas Redon France
19540928 28.09.1954 Redon-St-Nicolas France
19540928 28.09.1954 St Nicolas France CE I
19540928 28.09.1954 St. Nicolas Redon France CE II
19540928 28.09.1954 St. Nicolas Redon France CE II

Explanations:

Not looked for yet. Probable meteor.

Keywords:

(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

St-Nicolas-de-Redon, Ille-et-Vilaine, Gérard, Paroux, Bernard, Potraux, object, dark, landing, purple, effect, train, multiple, SNCF, S.N.C.F., light, duration

Sources:

[---] indicates sources which I have not yet checked.

Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross November 7, 2006 First published.
1.0 Patrick Gross February 21, 2010 Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [go1], [gd1], [jb1], [lc1], [ud1], [ud2], [wi1].
1.1 Patrick Gross June 18, 2010 Addition [jv5].
1.2 Patrick Gross July 6, 2010 Addition [jv6].
1.3 Patrick Gross November 15, 2014 Addition [ni1].
1.4 Patrick Gross February 6, 2017 Addition [ub1].

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