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October 14, 1954, Ciry-le-Noble, Saône-et-Loire:

Reference number for this case: 14-oct-54-Ciry-le-Noble. Thank you for including this reference number in any correspondence with me regarding this case.

Summary:

In L'Astronomie, review of the Astronomical Society of France, meeting minutes of November 7, 1954, Vol. 28, page 469, of December 1954, there was a report of a "suspicious object" by Mr. G. Mouillon, engineer in Génelard in Saône-et-Loire.

He had observed on October 14, 1954, at 08:50 p.m., between Ciry-le-Noble and Montceau-les-Mines, a "huge object surrounded by a green flame arriving at the ground in rapid fall, on a vertical height of about 10°. The object was certainly several degrees wide (maybe 5.) No noise was perceived."

What seems to have been a meteor then entered without this explanation in the ufological literature via Jacques Vallée, Aimé Michel, and others.

Reports:

[Ref. ast1:] "L'ASTRONOMIE" MAGAZINE:

Suspicious object. -- Mr. G. MOUILLON, engineer in Génelard (the Saone-et-Loire), observed on October 14 at 08:50 p.m., between Ciry-le-Noble and Montceau-les-Mines an enormous object surrounded by a green flame arriving on the ground in fast fall, on a vertical height of 10° approximately. The object was certainly several degrees broad (perhaps 5). No noise was perceived.

[Ref. aml5:] AIME MICHEL:

An odd straight line.

At the time I undertook (after many other attempts) to study the arrangement of observations on a map region by region, when something curious caught my attention to the Center-East of France. From South of Poligny to a spot located near Gueugnon, in the Saôone-et-Loire, five observations made a rigorously rectilinear arrangement over a distance of 150 kilometers.

Along this line, from East to West, were the observations of the Wood of Poligny, of Saint-Germain du Bois, of Saint-Romain sous Gourdon, of the Departmental 60 near Ciry le Noble, and Departmental 25 near Chazey Wood. While checking their date I discovered with astonishment that all these cases were all of October 14, then that on the 5 observations, one (Saint-Germain) was a luminous object on the ground, the next one (Saint-Romain) an immobile luminous object, placed on the ground, blocking an engine and extinguishing a headlight, the third a luminous object flying over the country-side (Departmental 60), the fourth a similar object blocking an engine and extinguishing headlights. Only the observation of Poligny could at best be taken for a meteor. All the others had the most incredible characters attributed to the saucers.

This first straight line gave me another idea: since 5 cases of October 14 were aligned, why not examine whether the other cases of the same day did not also present some interesting positions? I discovered then, this same day, a new alignment of 4 observations: Poligny (already on the other line), Palleau (Saône-et-Loire), Meursanges (Côte d'Or), and finally, 460 kilometers away, Méral, in the Mayenne. And Méral was also a ground observation [but the 11th and not the 14th].

(to be continued)

[Ref. ldl1:] MAGAZINE "LUMIERES DANS LA NUIT":

In 1954:

engineer in Génelard (Saône et Loire) observed on October 14 at 8: 50 m. pm. between Ciry-le-Noble and Montceau-les-Mines, a huge object enveloped in a green flame reaching the ground in a rapid fall, on a vertical height of about 10°. The object was certainly several degrees wide (maybe 5). No noise was perceived. (Excerpt from the S.A.F. Bulletin, year 1954 page 475).

[Ref. aml1:] AIME MICHEL:

The author indicates that 10 years after the wave of 1954, Jacques Vallée found another observation of the evening of October 14, 1954, reported by Mr. G. Mouillon, engineer at Génelard (Saône-et-Loire), in l'Astronomie, review of the Astronomical Society of France.

Mr. Mouillon was, about 8:50 p.m. at an undetermined spot between Ciry-le-Noble and Montceau-les-Mines, and saw a luminous object apparently "enormous" (maybe five degrees), descending noiselessly towards the ground.

Aimé Michel notes that one can unfortunately not locate the place of observation, made more than an hour after the series he reported for this evening, and which he says "shows a prolonged activity on a relatively small area."

[Ref. jve1:] JACQUES VALLEE:

The author indicates that in "L'Astronomie" in 1954 the following report appeared:

Suspicious object: M. G. Mouillon, engineer in Génelard, Saone-et-Loire, has observed, on October 14 at 8:05 p.m., between Ciry-le-Noble and Montceau-les-Mines, an enormous object surrounded with a green flame quickly falling to the ground over an area of about 10° in elevation [sic]. The object itself had an apparent diameter of several degrees, maybe as much as five degrees. No Noise was heard."

[Ref. jve5:] JACQUES VALLEE:

342 -004.30821 46.60200 14 10 1954 19 20 105 CIRY LE NOBLE F 1511 C** 293

[Ref. aml4:] AIME MICHEL:

Then, one day, I thought I saw the beginning of the light. Studying the cases of October 14 on a map of Burgundy, I was struck by thr fact that five of them (Poligny, (Saint-Germain-du-Bois, (Les Brosses-Tillot, (Nationale 60 and (the Wood of Chazey) were on a straight line. I then looked for other straight lines, and found a lot of them. Many were dubious, but some of them seemed to defy chance.

[Ref. fru1:] MICHEL FIGUET AND JEAN-LOUIS RUCHON:

The two authors indicate that on October 14, 1954 at 08:50 p.m. in Ciry le Noble in the department of Saône et Loire, a person circulating between Ciry-the-Noble and Montceau-the-Mines saw a luminous object apparently "enormous" descending without noise towards the ground.

The authors indicate that the source is L'Astronomie, magazine of the French Astronomy Society, cited by Jacques Vallée, and Aimé Michel in "A Propos des S.V." page 214.

[Ref. mft1:] FRANCAT - MICHEL FIGUET:

In an extract of his Francat catalogue, Michel Figuet recorded that the case of the CE0 type between Geugnon and Ciry-the-Noble was in the twilight, a "confusion with the fall of a fireball."

[Ref. jca1:] JACQUES COSTAGLIOLA:

The author indicates that on October 14, 1954, at 20:50 between Ciry-le-Noble and Montceau-les-Mines, G Mouillon, engineer, Génelard, sees an enormous object wrapped of a green flame arrive on the ground in fast fall on a vertical height of 10° approximately. The object was certainly several degrees broad, perhaps 5°. No noise was heard.

The source is noted "BSAF p 475".

[Ref. cnu1:] CNEGU - "LES MYSTERES DE L'EST":

6/ Extract of the Bulletin "l'Astronomie", December 1954, page 475

Suspect Object - M.G Mouillon, engineer in Génelard (Saône-et-Loire), observed on October 14 (1954) at 08:50 p.m., between Ciry-le-Noble and Montceau-les-Mines a huge object wrapped in a green flame arrive on the ground in rapid fall, on a vertical height of about 10°. The object was certainly several degrees wide (maybe 5). No noise was perceived.

[Ref. lhh1:] LARRY HATCH - "*U* COMPUTER DATABASE":

4121: 1954/10/14 19:40 1 4:10:00 E 46:36:00 N 3333 WEU FRN S&L 7:5

D60 GUEUGNAN>CIRY-le-NOBLE,FR:SCR W/BLINDING BEAM/LITE:>W SLO:/r49p175+/r138#9

Ref# 2 VALLEE:UFOS IN SPACE:Anatomy/phenon. Page No. 179 : ROAD+RAILS

[Ref. lhh2] LARRY HATCH - "*U* COMPUTER DATABASE":

4127: 1954/10/14 20:50 3 4:24:00 E 46:36:20 N 3333 WEU FRN S&L 6:8

CIRY-LE-NOBLE>>MONTCEAU-les-MINES,FR:ENG SEES HUGE SILENT OBJ FALL TO GROUND

Ref# 2 VALLEE:UFOS IN SPACE:Anatomy/phenon. Page No. 179 : MOUNTAINS

[Ref. goe1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

Godelieve van Overmeire indicates that in 1954, on October 14, in France, "between Ciry le Noble and Montceau les Mines, towards 20:50 Mr. G. Mouillon of Génelard in a car, sees an apparently enormous luminous object, going down without noise towards the ground."

The source is noted "M. FIGUET/ J.L. RUCHON: 'Ovni, premier dossier complet...' - Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979, p. 160".

[Ref. lcn1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan indicates in his database that in the Saone et Loire in Ciry Noble the 14th of October 1954 at 20:50 hours, "the witness circulates between Ciry-the-Noble and Montceau-the-Mines and apparently sees an ' enormous ' luminous object going down without noise towards the ground."

The source is noted: "Ovni, Premier dossier complet... by Figuet M./ Ruchon J.L. ** Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979".

[Ref. uda1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 14 October 1954 at 20:50, "Between Ciry and Montceau, Ciry, France", "An object was sighted that had an appearance and performance beyond the capability of known earthly aircraft. One disc was observed by one witness on a highway for five minutes."

The website indicates that the sources are "Michel, Aime, Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery, S. G. Phillips, New York, 1958; Vallee, Jacques, Computerized Catalog (N = 3073); Vallee, Jacques, Preliminary Catalog (N = 500), (in JVallee01); Vallee, Jacques, Anatomy of a Phenomenon, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1965; Hatch, Larry, *U* computer database, Author, Redwood City, 2002".

[Ref. uda2:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 14 October 1954 at dusk "Between Ciry and Gueugnon, Ciry, France," "An object was observed. Electromagnetic effects were noted. An unidentifiable object was observed at close range and caused physical effects."

The website indicates that the sources are "Vallee, Jacques, Anatomy of a Phenomenon, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1965; Carrouges, Michel, Les Apparitions de Martiens, Fayard, Paris, 1963".

[Ref. uda3:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 14 October 1954 at 20:15, in "Ciry Le Noble, France", "An object was sighted that had an appearance and performance beyond the capability of known earthly aircraft. One object, about 600 feet across, was observed by two witnesses (Mouillon)."

The website indicates that the sources are "Vallee, Jacques, Computerized Catalog (N = 3073); Schoenherr, Luis, Computerized Catalog (N = 3173); Hatch, Larry, *U* computer database, Author, Redwood City, 2002".

[Ref. uda4:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 22 October 1954 at 15:30 in "Ciry Le Noble, France", "A daytime disc was observed by one witness."

The website indicates that the sources are "Vallee, Jacques Challenge to Science: The UFO Enigma, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Preliminary Catalog (N = 500), (in JVallee01)".

[Ref. djn2:] DONALD JONHSON:

Donald Johnson indicates that on October 14, 1954, At 8:50 p.m. an engineer, Messr. G. Mouillon from Genelard, was driving between Ciry-le-Noble and Montceau-les-Mines, Saone-et-Loire when he witnessed an enormous luminous object that descended toward the ground without any noise.

The sources are indicated as "Jacques Vallee, Anatomy of a Phenomenon, p. 130; Michel Figuet and Jean-Louis Ruchon, OVNI: Le premier dossier complet des rencontres rapprochees en France, pp. 166."

[Ref. nip1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":

*Oct. 14, 1954 - At 8:50 p.m. an engineer, Mr. G. Mouillon from Genelard, was driving between Ciry-le-Noble and Montceau-les-Mines, Saone-et-Loire, France when he witnessed an enormous luminous object that descended toward the ground without any noise. (Sources: Jacques Vallee, Anatomy of a Phenomenon, p. 130; Michel Figuet & Jean-Louis Ruchon, OVNI: Le premier dossier complet des rencontres rapprochees en France, pp. 166).

[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded this case 7 times:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19541014 14.10.1954 Ciry France 20.50 CE I
19541014 14.10.1954 Ciry France 20.50 CE II
19541014 14.10.1954 Ciry Noble France Evening NL
19541014 14.10.1954 Ciry Noble France 19.20
19541014 14.10.1954 Ciry Noble France 19.20 CE II
19541014 14.10.1954 Ciry Noble France 20.15
19541014 14.10.1954 Ciry France Nightfall

[Ref. prn2:] PETER ROGERSON - "INTCAT":

October 14 1954. 2050hrs.

CIRY LE NOBLE (SAONE EY [sic] LOIRE : FRANCE)

Mr G Mouillon, an engineer at Genelard saw between Circy [sic] and Montceau-les-Mines an enormous object surrounded by green flames descend rapidly towards the ground.

Vallee Case 259

Vallee 1966a p130 citing L'Astronomie 7 November 1954. p469

Evaluation - Meteor

Explanations:

Obvious description of a meteor.

The witness reports this meteor 3 months later perhaps, and the hour may be incorrect, since the same object, a meteor, was reported in the same area and elsewhere at that date, but around 06:10 p.m..

Keywords:

(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

Ciry-le-Noble, Montceau-les-Mines, Saône-et-Loire, engineer, Mouillon, road, night, object, large, silent, descending, luminous, green, descent, night, flames, fast

Sources:

[----] indicates sources which I have not yet checked.

Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross June 20, 2004 First published.
1.0 Patrick Gross April 8, 2009 Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [goe1], [lcn1], [uda1], [uda2], [uda3], [uda4].
1.1 Patrick Gross February 11, 2010 Addition [jca1].
1.2 Patrick Gross February 28, 2010 Addition [djn2].
1.3 Patrick Gross June 29, 2010 Addition [jve5].
1.4 Patrick Gross November 15. 2014 Addition [nip1].
1.5 Patrick Gross February 25, 2017 Addition [ubk1].
1.6 Patrick Gross July 9, 2019 Additions [aml5], [aml4], [ldl1], [lhh1], [lhh2], [cnu1], [prn2], Summary.

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