ACUFO-1945-01-00-ENGLISHCHANNEL-1
The Herald-Advocate newspaper, of Park Ridge, Illinois, USA, of January 19, 1945, published that Second Lieutenant Edward M. Karl, 22 years old, of Park Ridge, pilot of A Flying Fortress B-17 from the 96th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, based in England, had seen its first Nazi jet fighter during the raid on Kassel, Germany, and that he still cannot give a good description of it although the craft passed at one moment within only 500 meters of his plane.
It was his navigator, Second Lieutenant Robert M. Faver, of Sweetwater, Texas, who first spotted the craft. He had shouted into the intercom: “They are firing rockets at us”; but this did not seem quite right because the B-17 formation was not quite on the enemy side of the Channel.
Further observation had shown that the smoke trail behind the “projectile” would suddenly cut off for some times, then burst out again, which convinced Lt. Karl that they were seeing a jet at a distance, as it was the habit of these craft to accumulate speed and then hover for several miles, thus saving fuel.
The plane had disappeared and was not seen again until something leaving a comet-like trail and screaming like a runaway express train suddenly “whistled” past the tail of the B-17 while climbing straight ahead. No one had been able to get a good look at it until there it was only a small dark dot miles up, trailing a cloud of white smoke. The enemy aircraft had made no attempt to attack the bombers formation.
This news article was spotted and published by American ufologist Jan Aldrich on his historical ufology website Project 1947 circa 1999.
Date: | January 1945 |
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Time: | ? |
Duration: | ? |
First known report date: | January 19, 1945 |
Reporting delay: | Days, weeks. |
Country: | U-K or Holland or Germany. |
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State/Department: | |
City or place: | Over the English Channel. |
Number of alleged witnesses: | 2 or more. |
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Number of known witnesses: | 2 |
Number of named witnesses: | 2 |
Reporting channel: | The Press. |
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Visibility conditions: | ? |
UFO observed: | Yes. |
UFO arrival observed: | ? |
UFO departure observed: | Yes. |
UFO action: | Flew by. |
Witnesses action: | |
Photographs: | No. |
Sketch(s) by witness(es): | No. |
Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): | No. |
Witness(es) feelings: | ? |
Witnesses interpretation: | German jet plane. |
Sensors: |
[X] Visual: 2 or more.
[ ] Airborne radar: [ ] Directional ground radar: [ ] Height finder ground radar: [ ] Photo: [ ] Film/video: [ ] EM Effects: [ ] Failures: [ ] Damages: |
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Hynek: | ? |
Armed / unarmed: | Armed, 11 7.62 mm machine guns. |
Reliability 1-3: | 2 |
Strangeness 1-3: | 2 |
ACUFO: | Possible German rocket plane or jet plane. |
[Ref. pre1:] NEWSPAPER "PARK RIDGE ADVOCATE-HERALD":
An Eighth Air Force Bomber Station, England -- Second Lieutenant Edward M. Karl, 22, Park Ridge, pilot of an Eighth Air Force B-17 Flying Fortress, saw his first Nazi jet-propelled fighter on the mission attacking marshalling yards at Kassel, Germany, and still can't give much of a description of it even though it came within 500 yards of his plane at one time.
It was his navigator, Second Lieutenant Robert M. Faver of Sweetwater, Texas, who first spotted the strange craft.
“They're firing rocket projectiles at us,” he yelled over the interphone; but this didn't seem quite right for the Fortress formation was not quite across the English Channel, churning along over friendly territory toward Germany.
Closer observation showed that the smoke trail behind the “projectile” would suddenly cut off for periods, and then spurt out again, which convinced Lt. Karl that they were seeing a jet-propelled plane at a distance, for it is the habit of these craft to accumulate speed and then glide for several miles, conserving fuel.
The plane disappeared, and was not seen again until something leaving a trail like a comet and screaming like a runaway express train suddenly “whooshed” past the Fort's tail, going straight up: no one got a good look at it until it was a tiny dark speck miles above, trailing a cloud of white smoke. The enemy plane made no attempt to attack the bomber formation.
Lt. Karl flies with the 96th Bomb Group the president cited for its success, veteran combat unit for bombing the Focke-Wulf fighter plane factories at Posen, Poland. It is the unit of the Third Bomb Division, which also has been cited by the President. This Division was also honored for its England-Africa shuttle mission attacking Messerschmitt airplane factories at Regensburg, Germany.
Lt. Karl is the son of Mr. and Mrs. Evla M. Karl, 214 Columbia avenue. He was a student at the University of Illinois before entering the Army at Chicago, July 1942. He received his pilot's wings at Marfa, Texas in April 1944. His brother, Aviation Cadet Eugene R. Karl, is now undergoing training at San Marcos, Texas.
[Ref. prt1:] JAN ALDRICH - "PROJECT 1947":
Park Ridge, IL. Park Ridge Herald-Advocate - 19 January, 1945
(from Mel Tierney Post Servicemen file, Park Ridge Library)
'Ridge Fortress Pilot Tells of Encounter with Nazi Jet Plane'
An Eighth Air Force Bomber Station, England--Second Lieutenant Edward M Karl, 22, Park Ridge pilot of an Eighth Air Force B-17 Flying Fortress, saw his first Nazi jet-propelled fighter on the mission attacking marshalling yards at Kassel, Germany, and still can't give much of a description of it even though it came within two (?) yards of his plane at the time.
It was his navigator, Second Lieutenant Robert M Favor of Sweetwater, Texas, who first spotted the strange craft.
“They're firing rocket projectiles at us,” he yelled over the interphone, but this this didn't seem quite right for the Fortress formation was not quite across the English Channel, churning along over friendly territory toward Germany.
Closer observation showed that the smoke trail behind the “projectile” would suddenly cut off for periods, and then spurt out again, which convinced Lt. Karl that they were seeing a jet-propelled plane at a distance, for it's the habit of these craft to accumulate speed and then glide for several miles to conserve fuel.
The plane disappeared, and was not seen again until something leaving a trail like a comet and screaming (?) like a runaway express train suddenly “whooshed” past the Fort's tail going straight up; no one got a good look at it until it was a tiny dark speck miles above, trailing a cloud of white smoke. The enemy plane made no attempt to attack the bomber formation.
Lt. Karl flies with (illegible) (the 96th?) Bomb Wing the president cited for its success (illegible) Group, veteran combat unit for bombing the Focke-Wulf fighter plane factories in Posen, Poland. It is the unit of the Third Bomb Division which also has been cited by the President. This Division was also honored (?) for its England-Africa shuttle mission attacking Messerschmidt [sic] airplane factories at Regensburg, Germany.
Lt. Karl is the son of Mr. and Mrs. Evla M. Karl, 214 Columbia avenue. He was a student at the University of Illinois before entering the Army at Chicago, July 1942. He received his pilot's wings at Marfa, Texas in April 1944. His brother, Aviation Cadet Eugene R. Karl, is now undergoing training at San Marcos, Texas.
The US B-17 “Flying Fortress” was a heavy bomber of the U.S Army Air Forces fitted with five 7.62 machine guns for its defense against enemy fighter planes.
At the time of the sighting, the 96th Bomb Group was stationed at RAF Snetterton Heath, England.
The raid to Kassel implies that the B-17 must have been over the Channel somewhere between the coasts of England and Holland.
The B-17 raids on Germany then were operated by day, so this sighting probably took place in daytime.
The description and the interpretation indicate that it was possibly a German Messerschmitt Me-163 “Komet” rocket plane, or maybe a German jet plane such as the Me-262. The only oddities seem to be that the location “was not quite on the enemy side of the Channel”, and that the supposed German aircraft did not attack the B-17.
The information is not sufficient to clearly determine what it was, but I see no reason to think it was something extraterrestrial.
Below: A German rocket plane Messerschmitt Me-163 “Komet” and its white trail.
Possible German rocket plane or jet plane.
* = Source is available to me.
? = Source I am told about but could not get so far. Help needed.
Main author: | Patrick Gross |
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Contributors: | None |
Reviewers: | None |
Editor: | Patrick Gross |
Version: | Create/changed by: | Date: | Description: |
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0.1 | Patrick Gross | April 18, 2024 | Creation, [pre1], [prt1]. |
1.0 | Patrick Gross | April 18, 2024 | First published. |