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The 1954 French flap:

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October 2, 1954, Faverges, Haute-Savoie:

Reference number for this case: 2-Oct-54-Faverges. Thank you for including this reference number in any correspondence with me regarding this case.



In 1968-1969, before the official GEPAN ufology effort started, its future head Dr Claude Poher was a member of the unofficial GEPA ufology group, and gathered a computer coded listing of more than 700 UFO reports on which multiple factors statistical computation could be run. In the file were a number of 1954 French UFO reports, among those this one.

For readability, a decoded interpretation of the data is provided here under the original 80 character encoded string. Decoding was done according to the original indications, the code number and its generic meaning is given. Please not that the generic meaning of each code is a predefined category, not the real specific details of the case. For example, if the main witness' age was 33, the coding would result in a number "3" which corresponds to a category "Adult from 21 to 59 years."

Original code:0604550210195416201IA110701046A0120300001000107000000000000000000000000000000000
Location:Faverges (Hte Savoie) - France
Case number:0604
Source code:55
Nature of the source:Reports from official French sources: Police, Gendarmerie, Army, Pilots
Type of Time:1 = local time
Number of witnesses:1 = 1
Main witness named:1 = name(s) indicated
Main witness age:0 = no indication
Main witness occupation:7 = civil, military or private pilots
Official investigation:1 = an official investigation was made
Weather:0 = no indication
Duration:4 = from 1 to 19 minutes
Minimal distance witness - phenomenon:6 = larger than 3 km
Method of observation:A = naked eye from an airplane
Number of "objects" observed simultaneously:01 = 1
Shape of the "object" (terminology of witness(es)):2 = round, circular, bowl
Dimensions of the phenomenon:0300 = 3 meters of diameter
Color of the observed phenomenon:00 = no indication
Luminosity of the phenomenon:1 = glow, low luminosity
Lights or projectors on the phenomenon:0 = no indication
Moving speed of the phenomenon:0 = no indication
Acceleration of the phenomenon:0 = no indication
Trajectory of the phenomenon:1 = straight line or very wide curve
Sounds perceived during observation:7 = altitude is indicated
Maximum angular height of observation (horizon = 0°):0 = no indication
Nature of the landing place:0 = no indication
Number of contact points with ground:0 = no indication
Traces of landing:0 = no indication
Observation of "occupants":0 = no indication
Height of the occupants observed:00 = no indication
Garment of the occupants:00 = no indication
Garment:0 = no indication
General behavior of "occupants":0 = no indication
Interaction of "occupants" with witness:0 = no indication
Head, hair:0 = no indication
Voice, breathing, chin:0 = no indication
Skin:0 = no indication
Eyes:0 = no indication
Mouth:0 = no indication
Various details:0 = no indication
Thermal effects:0 = no indication
Luminous effects:0 = no indication
Magnetic effect (or electromagnetic):0 = no indication
Odor perceived by witness:0 = no indication
Physiological effects on the witness(es):0 = no indication
Psychological effect on the witness(es):0 = no indication
Effects on animals:0 = no indication
Other effects reported:0 = no indication
Nebulosity:0 = no indication
Oscillations, emission of matter:0 = no indication
Spin, formation flight:0 = no indication
Immediate disappearance:0 = no indication
Halo surrounding the phenomenon:0 = no indication
Interaction witness / phenomenon (complement to the other rubrics):0 = no indication
Drawing or photo:0 = no indication
Structural details observed:0 = no indication

[Ref. lcn1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan indicates in his database that in the Haute Savoie in Faverges on October 2, 1954 at 16:20 hours, "a pilot, specialist in the flight in high mountain, which flew over the area at this time there, indicated that flying at approximately 2,000 meters above Faverges, he saw a craft which did not have any resemblance to a normal plane. Moreover, the direction followed at high speed by this apparatus excluded the assumption of a sounding balloon. The object was spherical, slightly luminous and moved in straight line. Its diameter was estimated as three meters. The observation lasted a little less than 20 minutes."

The sources are indicated to be my website at ""; "Ovni, Premier dossier complet... by Figuet M./ Ruchon J.L. ** Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979"; "Les Universons by Poher Claude **".


(AERO MIL) FAVERGES (74) 10/02/1954
Observed on: 10/02/1954
Region: Rhône Alpes
Department: Savoie (Haute)
Class: C
Summary: Distant observation by a pilot of the displacement of a circular object: lack of information.

On October 2, 1954, an experienced pilot (about 10,000 flying hours, specialist in Alpine flight), in command of a North 1203 flies at the heading of 250°, at 220 km / h and at an altitude of 2000 m. At 4:20 p.m. he observed on his right a "craft" moving at the same heading at an altitude of about 4000 m, located at a distance estimated at about 10 km. Its trajectory follows an upward curve. Its shape is that of a disc tilted on its axis by 30 to 40° whose rear edge presents a phosphorescent glow. Its diameter is estimated at 3-4 m. It disappears on the horizon after 70 s. The pilot made a brief report of his observation. No further testimony was received.

The sun (azimuth 245 °, site 18 °) is in the axis of the flight. The aircraft covered ~ 4,300 m for the duration of the observation. The object is seen at an elevation of about 11° in an azimuth close to 340° (no astronomical confusion identified in this area, see map of the sky). It follows an upward trajectory and then disappears on the horizon indicating that the witness fails to describe the descending part.

The witness interprets what he sees as a disc inclined 30-40° "on its axis" but which axis is it? One can imagine a disc whose front is lower than the back (or vice versa) or whose left edge is lower than the right edge (or vice versa). In the latter case, the object would have the form of an ellipse. Does the witness have objective reasons to describe a "tilted disc" or is it a mere interpretation? Moreover, the angular size of the object is very small since an object of 3-4 m to 10 km distance is seen at an angle of 1' to 1.4' (0.15 to 0.2 mm at the end of the arm), which is the limit of resolution of the eye (in strong contrast and luminance).

The pilot flying at heading 250 is almost facing the sun (azimuth 244°, elevation 18°): one cannot exclude a reflection of the sun on a small object much closer (balloon) or even a reflection of the sun on the canopy. GEIPAN classifies this case in C due to lack of information and coorroboration.

Report: None.

Details of the testimony
Aeronautical testimony
Reference of the report
Date of the report 10/02/1954
Type or aircraft Nord 1203
Coming from
Reaction Active Curiosity
Estimated position Faverges (74)
UTC date and hour 10/02/1954 04:20:00 p.m.
Timeframe 4 p.m. - 6 p.m.
Typical altitude 6500
Altitude - Phase Stable
Cloud Outise clouds
Vertical distance of the cloud
Horizontal distance of the cloud
Sun / Moon
Face / Back
Visibility >= 10 km
Heading 250 - 289
Trajectory Ascending
Apparent speed Fast, high, quick
Duration From 1 to 5 minutes
Color Other (other colors)
Size Numbered
Effect on the environment Not-specified
On board radar detection NO
Ground radar detection NO

[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded this case twice:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19541002 02.10.1954 Faverges France 16.20 DD
19541002 02.10.1954 Faverges France 16.20 DD


Possible balloon.


(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

Faverges, Haute-Savoie, official, daylight, day, pilot, aircraft, gleam, round


[----] indicates sources which I have not yet checked.

Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross December 12, 2004 First published.
1.0 Patrick Gross February 27, 2009 Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [lcn1].
1.1 Patrick Gross January 2, 2017 Addition [ubk1].
1.2 Patrick Gross January 27, 2017 Addition [gei1].

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