Roswell 1947 - Documents on the witnesses

"I was at Roswell in 1947 to early 1950. I was as at the time a gunner in the 393rd Bomb Squadron, 509th Bomb Group and a member of Captain Frederick Ewing's B-29 combat crew with tail number 44-7301 (Straight Flush). On Wednesday, July 9, 1947, our crew transported a crate to Carswell Army Air Force Base, Fort Worth, Texas in 1:55 minutes. The mission and cargo was classified. The crate was hauled in the front bomb bay and armed guards rode in that bomb bay with the crate. When I removed the down lock, I saw a Major and a Technical Sergeant in the bomb bay and some others in there. They rode the whole trip in the bomb bay and did not return with us. We flew unpressurized at about 8,000 feet. Our bombardier made a safety check of the shackles which held the platform secure. Those shackles were rigged so that the cargo could not be jettisoned. The corporal tail gunner and I saw the crate when we removed the down locks from the from the bomb doors. The crate was covered with a tarp when unloaded and taken away on a trailer at Carswell. I would guess the crate was about 12 x 6 x 6 feet. The engineer and I talked about weight and balance. They evidently had not given him a firm figure on the weight. He said with a laugh, "As long as it isn't more than five thousand pounds our center of gravity should be okay." We knew that Ft. Worth was to be our landing point, and we might get to see the new B-36 bomber. Someone made a remark about carrying "The General's Furniture". There had also been rumors for a couple of days about a spaceship crash, but we were only told it was classified cargo and to stay back."

"On the way home, I went forward to chat with Warrant Officer Landry about minor problem with a prop. We had the Curtiss Electric's and there was concern that one of them was hunting a bit. Major Jessie Marcel rode back to Roswell with us and I talked briefly with him. He was always interested in the enlisted men on flight crews. He wanted gunners to be good observers when on long missions. I don't think his questions that day were probing. We were useful mostly as scanners because we had only tail guns. He asked if I was anxious to get into B-36's? We were told repeatedly not to talk of this incident, not even to our wives. I held that inside until 1988 when books began to appear. To this day I am in touch with one other member of our crew. Most of the others are no longer alive. Major Ewing was killed in a B-47 crash in Florida in 1952."

"Sometime afterwards, about three to six months later, the wives began talking among themselves about the cleanup detail. This originated from the wives of men on that duty. One such was a neighbor of ours in July 1947. They moved across town, but I would sometimes see him and I ask him what he had seen out there. He was upset and told me, "You don't want to know." I think he was a baker because he would leave for work in the early morning, like 0130 hours. A time or two when I'd come in from a late flight he would be standing on the corner waiting for a ride. They did not own a car. Based on the wives gossip we heard that he had seen a body."

"Later, I became a pilot and while in SAC and was an instructor in the Aero-clubs and moonlighting as a crop duster. Aviation has been my life. While in SAC KC-97's at March AFB our crew had two weird experiences, with something that officially wasn't there. You may put the story in your Filer's Files."

Filer's Files

By George A. Filer,
Director, Mutual UFO Network Eastern Region

Another new Roswell witness?

The individual narrating the following account has requested that his name not be released at this time. "I was at Roswell in 1947 to early 1950. I was at the time a gunner in the 393rd Bomb Squadron, 509th Bomb Group, and a member of Captain Frederick Ewing's B-29 combat crew with tail number 44-7301 (Straight Flush).

"On Wednesday, July 9,1947, our crew transported a crate to Carswell Army Air Force Base, Fort Worth, Texas in 1:55 minutes. The mission and cargo was classified. The crate was hauled in the front bomb bay, and armed guards rode in that bomb bay with the crate. When I removed the down lock, I saw a major and a technical sergeant in the bomb bay and some others in there.. They rode the whole trip in the bomb bay and did not return with us.

"We flew unpressurized at about 8,000 feet. Our bombardier made a safety check of the shackles which held the platform secure. Those shackles were rigged so that the cargo could not be jettisoned. The corporal tail gunner and I saw the crate when we removed the down locks from the bomb doors. The crate was covered with a tarp when unloaded and taken away on a trailer at Carswell. I would guess the crate was about 12x6x6 feet.

"The engineer and I talked about weight and balance. They evidently had not given him a firm figure on the weight. He said with a laugh, "As long as it isn't more than five thousand pounds, our center of gravity should be okay." We knew that Ft. Worth was to be our landing point, and we might get to see the new B-36 bomber. Someone made a remark about carrying "The General's Furniture." There had also been rumors for a couple of days about a spaceship crash, but we were only told it was classified cargo and to stay back.

"On the way home, I went forward to chat with Warrant Officer Landry about a minor problem with a prop. We had the Curtiss Electric's, and there was concern that one of them was hunting a bit.

"Major Jessie Marcel rode back to Roswell with us, and I talked briefly with him. He was always interested in the enlisted men on flight crews. He wanted gunners to be good observers when on long missions. I don't think his questions that day were probing. We were useful mostly as scanners because we had only tail guns. He asked if I was anxious to get into B-36's. "We were told repeatedly not to talk of this incident, not even to our wives. I held that inside until 1988 when books began to appear. To .this day I am in touch with one other member of our crew. Most of the others are no longer alive. Major Ewing was killed in a B-47 crash in Florida in 1952.

"Sometime afterwards, about three to six months later, the wives began talking among themselves about the cleanup detail. This originated from the wives of men on that duty. One such was a neighbor of ours in July 1947. They moved across town, but I would sometimes see him and I ask him what he had seen out there. He was upset and told me, "You don't want to know." I think he was a baker because he would leave for work in the early morning, like 0130 hours. A time or two when I'd come in from a late flight and he would be standing on the corner waiting for a ride. They did not own a car. Based on the wives gossip we heard that he had seen a body.

"Later, I became a pilot, and while in SAC was an instructor in the Aero-clubs and moonlighting as a crop duster. Aviation has been my life. While in SAC KC-97's at March AFB our crew had two weird experiences with something that officially wasn't there. You may put the story in your Filer's Files. Thanks to a Roswell B-29 gunner."

(Filer's Note: The government claims what was brought to Fort Worth under guard was an unclassified Mogul Balloon that they launched regularly from White Sands Proving Grounds with printed instructions on the side for a reward if found. Our witness claims there were multiple guards inside the bomb bay. Even Atomic bombs did not normally warrant guards inside the bomb bay, and certainly not an officer with the rank of major. The witness verifies parts of the message held in General Ramey's hand, such as the debris was forwarded to Fort Worth as ordered below.)

From: Tom Carey
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:38:28 -0400 (EDT)
Fwd Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:16:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Filer's Files #14 -- 2000

Dear List:

Unlike the "MP's Story", George Filer's account of this witness' story has been verified. I knew who it must be when I read it, but I called George just to make sure the source is in the 1947 RAAF yearbook, and our investigation has been in touch with him over the years. His account has not changed since he first told it to us as a reluctant witness some years ago. We hope that by going public with his story on Filer's Files at this time, he will come forward himself in the not too distant future].

Our investigation now believes that the July 9, 1947 B-29 flight from Roswell to Ft. Worth [the flight that this witness speaks about] carried several bodies which had been recovered at the J.B. Foster Ranch. Another witness, Robert Slusher, who was also on this flight has told us that there was a local mortician on the tarmac waiting to greet the plane when it landed in Ft. Worth. After the plane discharged its cargo, it immediately returned to Roswell. On the flight back [which had an additional passenger, Maj. Jesse Marcel], one of the officers, Lt. Felix Martucci, was heard to exclaim, "Boys, we just made history!"

Tom Carey

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