ALSACAT-2008-07-05-WOLXHEIM-1
"Troester", 41, a demonstrator and tennis and football buff, residing in Molsheim, reported on July 24, 2008, on the ufology forum Les Mystères des OVNIS, several sightings.
The first is told as follows:
With his girlfriend'sun, he had gone in June 2008 to the "crop circle" of Marly, 150 kilometers from his home, because they really wanted to "see one in our life."
Then, to please his girlfriend, at the beginning of July 2008, around the 5th or 6th, they went to the hill located 500 meters from his childhood home to spend nights outside, despite the cold. They were well covered.
He says after he had seen "a few movements in the sky, too fast to imagine" whatever it was, "3 stars in the shape of a triangle" for a long time, while chatting with his friend. Suddenly one of the stars started "to leave, crossing without noise, the other 2 stars". He wondered if it was a satellite.
He indicates that he drinks "alcohol very rarely and never other substances".
At the request of a member of the forum, he specifies that the observation municipality is Wolxheim in Alsace. His parents live in a subdivision bordered by hills with vineyards. He says it is difficult for him to say the precise locations of his multiple sightings.
Around 2015, this observation was noted in a list of observations in Alsace by the Alsatian ufology association SPICA, saying that on Saturday July 5, 2008, in Wolxheim, a white luminous dot was seen, remaining unidentified due to the lack of information.
| Date: | July 5 or 6, 2008 |
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| Time: | Night. |
| Duration: | ? |
| First known report date: | July 24, 2008 |
| Reporting delay: | 3 weeks. |
| Department: | Bas-Rhin |
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| City: | Wolxheim |
| Place: | On a hill near Wolxheim. |
| Latitude: | 48.567 |
| Longitude: | 7.514 |
| Uncertainty radius: | 2 km. |
| Number of alleged witnesses: | 1 |
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| Number of known witnesses: | 1 |
| Number of named witnesses: | 0 |
| Witness(es) ages: | 41 |
| Witness(es) types: | Male resident. |
| Reporting channel: | Listing of sightings by the regional ufology group SPICA. |
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| Type of location: | From a hill. |
| Visibility conditions: | Night |
| UFO observed: | Yes |
| UFO arrival observed: | No |
| UFO departure observed: | ? |
| Entities: | No |
| Photographs: | No. |
| Sketch(s) by witness(es): | No. |
| Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): | No. |
| Witness(es) feelings: | Puzzled. |
| Witnesses interpretation: | Maybe a satellite. |
| Hynek: | NL |
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| ALSACAT: | Possible satellite. |
[Ref. myo1:] "LES MYSTERES DS OVNIS" WEB FORUM:
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TROESTER |
Subject: 2008: In july, a huge triangle (Wolxheim in Alsace) Thu Jul 24 2008, 14:37 Hello all of you. Well, I'm new on the website and to make me feel forced to speak of my observations, it is that frankly there are things that intrigues me. I have already expressed to some what I have seen on July 22, this huge triangle. But I must chronologically evoke all the other points, to hget out a little what I have in me at this time I want to say that I very rarely drink alcohol and never other tuff First of all (with the son of my girlfriend) we went to the crope circle [sic] of Marly in June (150 km from our home) we really wanted to see one onc in our life. In early July to the 5th or 6th Wanting to please my girlfriend we went there on the hill 500 meters from my childhood home to spend nights under the stars, despite some cold. But we were thoroughly well covered. First night Despite some movements in the sky, too fast to imagine anything at all, I long fixed 3 stars in a triangle shape, I discuss about anything and everything with my girlfriend, when suddenly one of the stars starts to go, crossing without noise, the other 2 stars (a satellite?). the 14th of July To admire the fireworks, we get to the same place: my girlfriend, her son and I (plus other spectators, as the area is known to admire the lights) While everyone only looks at the lights, our gaze turns to a strongly sparkling star with binoculars we observe it, I do think it is a star (which really should be the case) but around are moves of small stars and quite numerous flashes. July 18 My birthday with my darling: so we want to end the night on onour hill, we come back from dinner (I drank a glass of wine early in the lunch and nothing else on the alcohol side) my girlfriend drives when arriving at the neighboring village I notice a white ball getting down quickly and back up just as quickly making quick movements from the left to the right; (villagers continued July 14 why not ?????) To change I propose to drive on the other hill; we park between the vines: the sky not too starry, even cloudy, it seems to me, we talk, we laugh, we kiss when my girlfriend told me is it a star, what we see there, my gaze turns to that star and there I see a strangely near and shining star, changing from white to red, but standing still (logical for a star) I stare at it 10 sec when, suddenly, just behind the star a white flashing light. we return to the homes (we started to get a little scared) when we notice on the first hill (the one of July 5/6), the same phenomenon, we park opposite it, we scrutinizes, we wonder about it, when, to destigmatize the thing, we make at it "for laughs" headlights flahes and coincidentally the star goes out. Difficult to give details of distances and different orientation in space (I'm not too expert in the matter). As I oftn wrote, I'll publish this evening the following events and among other the triangle of July 22 that night I will never forget Sincerely and seriously Flo |
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Derek3D |
Subject: 2008: In july, a huge triangle (Wolxheim in Alsace) Thu Jul 24 2008, 16:10 @TROESTER wrote: we return to the homes (we started to get a little scared) Troester, The first thing I think is important to tell you is this: do not be afraid. Then would it be possible to have more details on your observations? Place of observation, This so that qualified individuals can analyze your observations and, if necessary, provide an explanation to them. To help, there is a small reporting form HERE I look forward for your triangles observations of July 22. Friendly, |
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TROESTER |
Subject: 2008: In july, a huge triangle (Wolxheim in Alsace) Thu Jul 24 2008, 20:15 hello again dereck 3d First of all so many phenomena in such a short time, we tell ourselves this is too much! but hey I relate what I have seen then the village of my parents is Wolxheim in Alsace, in a lot. The estate is bordered by hills filled with vineyards 5 km from Molsheim and 20 km from Strasbourg About 1000 residents. one of the hill is topped by a statue in gold leaves representing the christ(place called Le Horn) central spot of my observations (except the triangle) statue lit until midnight located about 300 meters from my parents'. timing of observations, it is always in the early evening 09:45 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. to midnight to end at 1:00 a.m. then I go home.. hard to say the exact locations of the observations I will take a compass trying to remember exactly the observations(not too hard as this can never be forgotten). Before talking about the triangle, 2 night before at 10:00 p.m., I go to the end of the lot (with my mom, "a little stroll of curiositie") 2-3 minutes pass when I see in the clouds " towards the village and Strasbourg " white lights that dance and join then part again, I told my mother thinking impressive (thinking though to laser fired from a nightclub near Strasbourg, but hey I did not see their bottom (of these lasers) and then appearing just below a small white ball flashing descading for 5 seconds and goes away at right angle and rather quickly. My mother who attends all this doubt that it was a plane and me too. Then came July 22 at 11:00 p.m. 11:15 p.m., I returned from a not too alcoholic dinner my mother is working outside in the garden thanks to the public lights, says she does not dare go outside too much in the garden in the evening, I laugh and I look at the sky as large clouds of the day scatter, but hey I find the atmosphere a bit heavy, I gave again my attention above the neighbor's house, when I see 3 white stars in a triangle formation, having already seen this, I do not really care, until 3 seconds later it starts moving, then showing a black mass between each light, (surprisingly it is noisy extremely powerful turbines. I told my mother you see what I see, yes it's crazy !!!! (stealth aircraft or other why not) I dare to follow it to the end of the street about 50 meters, it's going to the Nordheim TV antenna, barely out of vision, I turn my head to my left there I see a very fast white ball coming from the direction of Wasselone going to Strasbourg, when I start to tell me it is best to enter the house with my mother that I joined up the street, walk again in the other direction and there behind the houses a blue ball speeds and scintillates, flying in the direction of Molsheim / Mutzig. Last night I watched with my girlfriend and her son some weird stuff but not as weird as July 22. here I am preparing for this evening sky observation program, this time with my girlfriend only. And if you need sharper details, please let me know I will try to localize.By the way about 22 pm when I'm at Le Horn the moon is in front of me a little bit on the right and when I saw the triangle the moon was right behind me. Flo Very friendly If you know people in the area who saw the same thing thank you to let me know. wolxheim it is the countryside but still there are many villages around, I dare not too much ask my neighbors. |
[Ref. spa1:] UFOLOGY GROUP "SPICA":
| City | Date and hour of observation | General shape Identification |
General color Hypothesis |
Conclusion |
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| WOLXHEIM | Saturday 5 July 2008 | luminous dot Unidentified |
white None |
Unsolved -lack of info |
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We can of course consider that the dit is unidentified because of the lack of information.
I nevertheless suggest a possible mechanism that might explain the observation:
The witness looks at three stars. He himself said it was three stars, nothing else.
He then thinks that one of the three stars "went away". This is what struck him as strange, but very moderately strange since he wonders whether it was a satellite.
If a satellite had arrived at the position of one of the three stars he was looking at, and that satellite had started to be lit by the sun at that time only, it would have been seen as an apparition at this place, explaining that the earlier part of its trajectory was not seen, that the arrival of this satellite towards one of the three stars was not seen.
If this satellite was brighter than the star, the witness's eyes no longer sitinguished the star, but only the satellite, giving the impression that it was a departing of the star.
The satellite may have been the ISS, the international space station, or even an airplane.
As we do not have a precise date of the observation and no hour of observation, it remains impossible to determine which satellite it might have been or whether it was the ISS or not.
Possible satellite.
* = Source is available to me.
? = Source I am told about but could not get so far. Help needed.
| Main author: | Patrick Gross |
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| Contributors: | None |
| Reviewers: | None |
| Editor: | Patrick Gross |
| Version: | Create/changed by: | Date: | Description: |
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| 0.1 | Patrick Gross | July 16, 2021 | Creation, [myo1], [spa1]. |
| 1.0 | Patrick Gross | July 16, 2021 | First published. |
