ACUFO-1944-06-00-BARI-1
Circa 1999, Jan Aldrich, managing the historical ufology website Project 1947, indicated that in June 1944, at 11:00 hours, on the Adriatic Sea, just northeast of Bari, three P-38s of the 1st Fighter Group at 33,000 feet saw a round silver disc above them at about 50,000 feet. It dropped to about 40,000 feet and stayed with the formation for 3 minutes, then sped north out of sight.
Aldrich indicated that the source is a report form at Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS).
Date: | June 1944 |
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Time: | 11:00 a.m. |
Duration: | 3 minutes. |
First known report date: | 1999 |
Reporting delay: | 5 decades. |
Country: | Italy |
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State/Department: | Puglia |
City: | Bari |
Number of alleged witnesses: | 3 |
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Number of known witnesses: | ? |
Number of named witnesses: | 0 |
Reporting channel: | CUFOS sighting report form. |
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Visibility conditions: | Day. |
UFO observed: | Yes. |
UFO arrival observed: | ? |
UFO departure observed: | Yes. |
UFO action: | Follows, goes away. |
Witnesses action: | |
Photographs: | No. |
Sketch(s) by witness(es): | No. |
Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): | No. |
Witness(es) feelings: | ? |
Witnesses interpretation: | ? |
Sensors: |
[X] Visual: 1 to 3.
[ ] Airborne radar: [ ] Directional ground radar: [ ] Height finder ground radar: [ ] Photo: [ ] Film/video: [ ] EM Effects: [ ] Failures: [ ] Damages: |
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Hynek: | DD |
Armed / unarmed: | Armed, 1 20 mm gun, 4 machine guns. |
Reliability 1-3: | 1 |
Strangeness 1-3: | 2 |
ACUFO: | Insufficient information, unknown credibility. |
[Ref. prt4:] JAN ALDRICH - "PROJECT 1947":
N - 1944.06. - 1100 hours, Adriatic Sea, just northeast of Bari
3 P-38s of the 1st Fighter Group at 33,000 feet saw a round silver disc above them at about 50,000 feet. It dropped to about 40,000 feet and stayed with the formation for 3 minutes, then sped north out of sight. (Report form, Center for UFO Studies, (CUFOS))
[Ref. gvo1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:
1944, June
Italy, Adriatic Sea, northeast of Bari
The pilots of 3 USAAF P38 planes of the 1st Fighter group, observed at 11 a.m. a silver disc flying at 50,000 feet for 3 minutes with their planes (PROJECT ACUFOE, Catalog 1999, Dominique Weinstein)
[Ref. dwn2:] DOMINIQUE WEINSTEIN:
At 1100, the pilots of three USAAF P-38 from the 1st Fighter Group one round silvery disc flying above them at 50,000 ft. It dropped to about 40,000 ft and stayed 3 minutes with the formation of planes, then sped north out of sight.
Source: Project 1947, Jan Aldrich / Report form CUFOS
[Ref. lhh1:] LARRY HATCH:
496: 1944/06/05 11:00 3 17:10:00 E 41:20:00 N 3313 WEU ITL SEA 6:A
ADRIATIC NE/BARI,ITL:3 P38 CREWS:SLVR DISK/50k':^+PACES/3mins:>>N:/r65p22
Ref#209 UFO: Rivista di Info.Ufologica/CISU Issue No. 13: IN-FLIGHT
Larry Hatch indicates the source "Rivista di Informazione Ufologica" of the Centro Italiano Studi Ufologici (CISU), No. 13, December 1993; but I found nothing about this cse in this source.
[Ref. nip1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":
[1944] June 1944; Adriatic Sea
At 11:00 a.m. a flight of three P-38 fighters at 33,000 feet saw above them, at an estimated altitude of 50,000 feet, a silver disc. The object descended to about 40,000 feet and paced the fighters for 3 minutes, then accelerated and sped away. (Ref. 3; Jan Aldrich, Project ACUFOE, from CUFOS report form.)
[Ref. rpl1:] ROBERTO PINOTTI AND ALFREDO LISSONI:
These Italian ufologists indicate that during the Second World War, according to case studies collected by ufologists, mysterious foofighters have been seen on several occasions by military pilots, including a round silver disk that appeared over Bari in June 1944.
[Ref. tai1:] "THINK ABOUT IT" WEBSITE:
Date: June 1944
Location: Adriatic Sea
Time: 11:00 a.m.
Summary: At 11:00 a.m. a flight of three P-38 fighters at 33,000 feet saw above them, at an estimated altitude of 50,000 feet, a silver disc. The object descended to about 40,000 feet and paced the fighters for 3 minutes, then accelerated and sped away.
Ref. 3; Jan Aldrich, Project ACUFOE, from CUFOS report form
The three "P-38" correspond to the Lockheed P-38 "Lightning", an American twin-engine, single-seat fighter plane used at this time of the Second World War, capable of a maximum speed of 666 km/h or even 712 km/h with WEP compressor.
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It was armed with a 20 mm HS-404 cannon, 4 12.7 mm M2 machine guns, and could carry 2 bombs, or a torpedo, or 10 127 mm rockets.
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Apparently, the source is a "report form" held at CUFOS. Typically, a report form is a form filled by someone to report a UFO sighting; hence, the credibility of the report is unknown.
I also miss the date when this was reported. CUFOS, the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies, in the US, was founded in 1973, and in 2023, it still exists. So, the report form may have been filled between 1973 and 1999 when US ufologist Jan Aldrich found it.
The report appears to be of high strangeness, but is very meager, and no witness name is given.
Insufficient information, unknown credibility.
* = Source is available to me.
? = Source I am told about but could not get so far. Help needed.
Main author: | Patrick Gross |
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Contributors: | None |
Reviewers: | None |
Editor: | Patrick Gross |
Version: | Create/changed by: | Date: | Description: |
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0.1 | Patrick Gross | October 21, 2023 | Creation, [prt4], [dwn2], [nip1], [tai1], [rpl1]. |
1.0 | Patrick Gross | October 21, 2023 | First published. |
1.1 | Patrick Gross | November 2, 2023 | Additions [gvo1], [lhh1]. |