ACUFO-1944-02-25-SAINTQUENTIN-1
The 2007 book “Strange Company - Military Encounters with UFOs in World War II” by Keith Chester is said to indicate that there was a sighting on February 24-25, 1944, southwest of Saint-Quentin, in France.
The report indicated that during a night operation against targets in Schweinfurt, Germany, three silver objects, about 30 feet long were seen 1,000 feet below and 600 meters eastern of the observers. They were described as looking like Zeppelins and moving in formation independently of the wind. They were apparently not interconnected. The report apparently stated that “a closer view was obtained” bit there still “remained confusion over the object's identity.”
The report apparently ruled out that the objects were balloons or dirigibles.
The sighting also appeared in a military summary report about German flak operations for March 7, 1944, found and publiched by U.S. ufologist Barry Greenwood in 1998.
“Southwest of St. Quentin three silver objects about 30 ft. long were seen 1,000 ft. below and 600 yds astern of the observers. They were described as resembling Zeppelins and, altough moving in unison independently of the wind, were apparently not interconnected. Similar phenomena were described in Consolidated FLO report No. 205 and although on this occasion a closer vew was obtained there is no explanation at present of the purpose they may serve.”
Date: | February 25, 1944 |
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Time: | Night. |
Duration: | ? |
First known report date: | March 7, 1944 |
Reporting delay: | Hours, 2 weeks. |
Country: | France |
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State/Department: | Aisne |
City or place: | Saint-Quentin |
Number of alleged witnesses: | ? |
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Number of known witnesses: | ? |
Number of named witnesses: | 0 |
Reporting channel: | Military summary report, UFO book by Keith Chester. |
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Visibility conditions: | Night. |
UFO observed: | Yes. |
UFO arrival observed: | ? |
UFO departure observed: | ? |
UFO action: | ? |
Witnesses action: | ? |
Photographs: | No. |
Sketch(s) by witness(es): | No. |
Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): | No. |
Witness(es) feelings: | ? |
Witnesses interpretation: | ? |
Sensors: |
[X] Visual: ?
[ ] Airborne radar: [ ] Directional ground radar: [ ] Height finder ground radar: [ ] Photo: [ ] Film/video: [ ] EM Effects: [ ] Failures: [ ] Damages: |
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Hynek: | ? |
Armed / unarmed: | Probably armed, machines guns. |
Reliability 1-3: | 2 |
Strangeness 1-3: | 1 |
ACUFO: | Possible extraterrestrial craft. |
[Ref. bgd1:] BARRY GREENWOOD:
It is interesting to note that in the days prior to the influx of flying saucer reports beginning in 1947, the Army Air Force of World War II managed to slot peculiar aerial reports into their own official category: "Phenomena." How do we know this? Attached to some of the mission reports during evening activities were brief sheets making particular mention of unusual features arising from those missions. Those reports went into special files as noted on the sheets for further study. Some samples:
6535 (R) Phenomena
GERMANY
Southwest of St. Quentin three silver objects about 30 ft. long were seen 1,000 ft. below and 600 yds astern of the observers. They were described as resembling Zeppelins and, altough moving in unison independently of the wind, were apparently not interconnected. Similar phenomena were described in Consolidated FLO report No. 205 and although on this occasion a closer vew was obtained there is no explanation at present of the purpose they may serve.
SOURCE: MA. London - 66474 - 9 march 1944 - filed 9815 Spec. Binder.
[Ref. dwn2:] DOMINIQUE WEINSTEIN:
During a night operation against targets in Schweinfurt (Germany), three silver objects, about 30 feet long were seen 1,000 feet below and 600 yards eastern of the observers. They were described as looking like Zeppelins and moving in formation independently of the wind. They were apparently not interconnected. The report stated that a closer view was obtained and still there remained confusion over the object's identity. Balloons and dirigibles were apparently ruled out, indicating that some form of unknown aircraft was encountered.
Sources: Consolidated Flak Liaison Officer report / Strange company, Keith Chester, 2007
[Ref. snu1:] "SATURDAY NIGHT UFORIA" WEBSITE:
The website indicates that the following sighting occurred on the night of February 24/25, 1944, being described in a March, 1944 Military Attache Report:
“Southwest of St. Quentin, three silver objects about 30 ft. long were seen 1,000 ft. below and 600 yards astern of the observers. They were described as resembling Zeppelins and, although moving in unison independently of the wind, were apparently not interconnected. Similar phenomena were described in Consolidated FLO report No. 205 and, although on this occasion a closer view was obtained, there is no explanation at present of the purpose they may serve.”
[Ref. nip1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":
[1944] Feb. 24/25, 1944; St. Quentin, France
Three silver objects & resembling zeppelins & moving independently of the wind & not interconnected. (Page 60 Ref.1)
The reference 1 is described at the end of the document as “Strange Company (2007), Keith Chester”.
[Ref. tai1:] "THINK ABOUT IT" WEBSITE:
Date: Feb. 24/25, 1944
Location: St. Quentin, France
Time:
Summary: Three silver objects & resembling zeppelins & moving independently of the wind & not interconnected.
Page 60 Ref.1
[Ref. get1:] GEORGE M. EBERHART:
1944
[... other cases...]
February 24
Night. Southwest of Saint-Quentin, Aisne, France, three silver objects are seen by an RAF bomber returning from a mission over Schweinfurt, Germany. They resemble Zeppelins but move independently of the wind. (Strange Company 60)
[... other cases...]
There is no aircraft information in the available report. But we are told the sighting occurred over France, by night, after a raid on Germany; this would mean that the aircraft was, or were, Royal Air Force heavy night bombers, for examples Avro Lancasters or Vickers Wellingtons.
At the beginning of World War II, the German had barrage balloons. They were egg-shaped and had four fins at the tail end: a top fin, two side fins, and a bottom fin. When inflated, the shape of the balloon could be likened to a short fat cigar, with a tail like a Japanese goldfish. These balloons were of course unmanned.
The main purpose of these German barrage balloons, like their Allied counterparts, was to hold a steel cable suspended vertically in the air. Thus, below the operating height of the balloon, this cable obstacle presents both a physical and mental hazard to enemy pilots attempting to enter that space.
The description of the objects in the report is very compatible with German WWII barrage balloons (photo below).
The report apparently ruled out that the objects were balloons or dirigibles, but we do not know why; at least, whereas it is certain that they were not piloted airships, we do not know why barrage balloons would have been excluded.
I even appears quite odd that the allied military would have had “no explanation” in 1944 “of the purpose they may serve” when the English coasts and cities had been protected by barrage balloons since the “Battle of Britain” in the summer of 1940.
This explanation of the sighting by barrage balloons is thus not validated, but cannot be totally excluded.
With the source [bgd1] that I found now, it appears that the balloon explanation was ruled out due to the observation that the movement of the objects was independent of the wind, and that the objects seemed to stay together without attachments being seen, which suggests a certain duration of observation. I therefore change the assessment which was "Possible German barrage balloons, insufficient information".
Possible extraterrestrial craft.
* = Source is available to me.
? = Source I am told about but could not get so far. Help needed.
Main author: | Patrick Gross |
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Contributors: | None |
Reviewers: | None |
Editor: | Patrick Gross |
Version: | Create/changed by: | Date: | Description: |
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0.1 | Patrick Gross | October 18, 2023 | Creation, [dwn2], [sua1], [nip1], [tai1], [get1]. |
1.0 | Patrick Gross | October 18, 2023 | First published. |
1.1 | Patrick Gross | June 28, 2024 | Addition [bgd1]. In the Summary, addition of the information from [bgd1]. In the Discussion, addition of the "Update on June 28, 2024" part. |