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In his 2007 book “Need to Know - UFOs, the Military and Intelligence”, the British author Timothy Good tells of a case he said to be coming from an interview with General Major Boris Shurinov by Lawrence Moore and Livia Russell, in Moscow, in February 1994, with parts of this interview showed in Network First: UFO, a TV documentary written and directed by Lawrence Moore for Central Productions, 1994.
The report says that during a mission to Romania in 1944, at an unspecified exact date, to bomb oil refineries used by the Germans, a Soviet Air Force bomber experienced a shocking encounter with a highly unusual craft:
Boris Surikov and his commander, Major Bajenov, flying at an altitude of 5000 meters over south-west Ukraine, saw a large elliptical-shaped object fly towards them.
Surikov said: “We'd read in the newspapers about new German weapons, but we'd seen nothing like this. What happened was that our heavy plane (probably a Tupolev Tu-2), of 14.5 tons, started shaking, the oil pressure rose, and when I leaned towards the window I felt a strong electrostatic charge. I was worried that the plane would burst into flames. It passed us and disappeared, but our plane was still affected: I looked at the wings, and they were covered in electrical discharges. The whole plane was fluorescent and the wings were glowing like a rainbow.”
Believing the aircraft to be in real danger of catching fire, Major Bajenov gave orders to jettison the 2-ton bomb load in south-west Ukraine instead of in Romania. The pilots mentioned nothing about the incident during their debriefing, merely “confirming” that they had successfully bombed the refineries.
Surikov described the unknown craft as similar in some respects to the space shuttles. “It lit up the air around it. It looked like a localized sunset, but in the centre was a strange-looking flying object... It was larger and longer than our Buran space shuttle - I think about twice as long.”
Tom Good says that Surikov, who later became the Soviet chief military authority on weapons of mass destruction, asked scientists for their opinion on the phenomenon: “I was told that one could not rule out the possibility that the electrification of the plane was due to the close proximity of a UFO with a new type of propulsion system which ionized the atmosphere,” he related.
| Date: | 1944 |
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| Time: | ? |
| Duration: | ? |
| First known report date: | 1994 |
| Reporting delay: | 5 decades. |
| Country: | Ukraine |
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| State/Department: | |
| City or place: | South-west of Ukraine |
| Number of alleged witnesses: | 2 |
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| Number of known witnesses: | 1 |
| Number of named witnesses: | 2 |
| Reporting channel: | TV interview in UFO documentary. |
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| Visibility conditions: | ? |
| UFO observed: | Yes. |
| UFO arrival observed: | Yes. |
| UFO departure observed: | ? |
| UFO action: | Approach. |
| Witnesses action: | ? |
| Photographs: | No. |
| Sketch(s) by witness(es): | No. |
| Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): | No. |
| Witness(es) feelings: | ? |
| Witnesses interpretation: | ? |
| Sensors: |
[X] Visual: 2.
[ ] Airborne radar: N/A [ ] Directional ground radar: [ ] Height finder ground radar: [ ] Photo: [ ] Film/video: [ ] EM Effects: [ ] Failures: [ ] Damages: |
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| Hynek: | ? |
| Armed / unarmed: | Armed, machine guns. |
| Reliability 1-3: | 2 |
| Strangeness 1-3: | 3 |
| ACUFO: | Possible extraterrestrial craft, or invention. |
[Ref. tgd1:] TIMOTHY GOOD:
This author indicates that during a mission to Romania in 1944 at an exact date unspecified, to bomb oil refineries used by the Germans, a Soviet Air Force bomber experienced a shocking encounter with a highly unusual craft.
Boris Surikov and his commander, Major Bajenov, were flying at an altitude of 5 kilometres over south-west Ukraine when a large, elliptical-shaped object flew towards them.
Surikov said: “We'd read in the newspapers about new German weapons, but we'd seen nothing like this. What happened was that our heavy plane (probably a Tupolev Tu-2), of 14.5 tonnes, started shaking, the oil pressure rose, and when I leaned towards the window I felt a strong electrostatic charge. I was worried that the plane would burst into flames. It passed us and disappeared, but our plane was still affected: I looked at the wings, and they were covered in electrical discharges. The whole plane was fluorescent and the wings were glowing like a rainbow.
Believing the aircraft to be in real danger of catching fire, Major Bajenov gave orders to jettison the 2-tonne bomb load in south-west Ukraine instead of in Romania. The pilots mentioned nothing about the incident during their debriefing, merely “confirming” that they had successfully bombed the refineries.
Surikov described the unknown craft as similar in some respects to the space shuttles. “It lit up the air around it. It looked like a localized sunset, but in the centre was a strange-looking flying object... It was larger and longer than our Buran space shuttle - I think about twice as long.”
Surikov, who years later became the Soviet chief military authority on weapons of mass destruction, asked scientists for their opinion on the phenomenon. “I was told that one could not rule out the possibility that the electrification of the plane was due to the close proximity of a UFO with a new type of propulsion system which ionized the atmosphere,” he related.
The source is indicated to be an interview with General Major Boris Shurinov by Lawrence Moore and Livia Russell, Moscow, February 1994, with parts of this interview showed in Network First: UFO, written and directed by Lawrence Moore for Central Productions, 1994.
[Réf. tgd2:] TIMOTHY GOOD:
The author indicates that on an unspecified date in 1944, during a mission to Romania to bomb oil refineries used by the Germans, Boris Surikov and his commander Major Bajenov were flying at an altitude of 5 kilometres over the southwest of Ukraine, when they saw “in front of the plane, a large elliptical-shaped object” that “flew towards us”, according to what Surikov told British television producers Lawrence Moore and Livia Russell in Moscow in 1994, Surikov is quote saying:
“We'd read in the newspapers about new German weapons, but we'd seen nothing like this. What happened was that our heavy plane, of 14.5 tonnes, started shaking, the oil pressure rose, and when I leaned towards the window I felt a strong electrostatic charge. I was worried that the plane would burst into flames. It passed us and disappeared, but our plane was still affected: I looked at the wings, and they were covered in electrical discharges.”
Bajenov was also concerned that the plane was about to catch fire and ordered the crew to jettison the bomb load. Surikov said “The whole plane was fluorescent and the wings were glowing like a rainbow. If it had been up to me, I would have carried on and tried to fulfil the mission, and if the plane would have caught fire I would have jumped with a parachute.”
The commander, having more experience, believed there was real danger of the plane catching fire and the bombs exploding.
The men did not mention the incident in their report on the mission, Bajenov and Surikov only stated that they had successfully bombed Romanian oil refineries. Surikov explained: “If we had said we had not carried out our mission, we could have been taken to court as cowards.”
Surikov said the unknown object was similar in some respects to the Russian and American space shuttles, and lighting up the air around it, looking like a localized sunset. In the center was a strange-looking flying object, that “didn't look at all like the burst of an anti-aircraft shell, which is about 10 metres in diameter. It was larger and longer than our Buran space shuttle — I think about twice as long.”
Years later, Surikov asked scientists for their opinion as to what he had seen. He is quoted saying:
“I was told that one could not rule out the possibility that the electrification of the plane was due to the close proximity of a UFO with a new type of propulsion system which ionized the atmosphere.”
Tim Good says Surikov later became a specialist in rockets and nuclear weapons, woking for a long time at Soviet Army headquarters as its chief authority on weapons of mass destruction, saying he was proud to be one of those who developed a treaty on the restriction of anti-missile defence systems. He is quoted saying:
“For a long time I worked as an expert in Geneva, where we were trying to promote the disbanding of certain types of weapons of mass destruction — nuclear, radiological, and so on.”
Tim Good indicates Surikov was now retired from the Soviet Armed Forces with the rank of general major, and specializes in environment problems. He is quoted saying about the UFO phenomenon:
“We cannot rule out the possibility that creatures who may well be superior to us are interested in what is happening to our Earth . . Scientists with whom I have discussed these matters think that in those civilizations new types of energy have been discovered which allow them to fly very far at great speed, so it is very important for us to study them in order to make use of these discoveries and to improve life on Earth.”
Tim Good indicates that the source is an interview with General-Major Boris Surikov by Lawrence Moore and Livia Russell, Moscow, February 1994, with a part of this interview was shown in the documentary “Network First: UFO”, produced, written and directed by Lawrence Moore for Central Productions, 1994.
[Ref. get1:] GEORGE M. EBERHART:
1944
[... other cases...]
During a mission to bomb oil fields in Romania, a Russian Tupolev Tu-2 piloted by Maj. Bajenov and Boris Surikov are flying over southwest Ukraine at an altitude of 3 miles when a large, elliptical object approaches them. The bomber starts shaking, the oil pressure rises, and Surikov feels a strong electrostatic charge. Even after the object passes, the bomber's wings are covered with glowing discharges. (Good Need, pp. 21 - 22) 1944
[... other cases...]
[Ref. sse1:] WEBSITE "SCIENCE AND SPACE":
August 4, 2022 by Annabel Swaniawski
On an unspecified date in 1944, during a mission to Romania to bomb oil refineries used by the Germans, Boris Surikov and his commander, Major Bajenov, were flying at an altitude of five kilometres over southwest Ukraine when they had an encounter with a highly unusual aircraft. “In front of the plane, a large elliptical-shaped object flew towards us,” Surikov told British television producers Lawrence Moore and Livia Russell in Moscow in 1994. “We had read in the newspapers about new German weapons, but we had seen nothing like this.”
“What happened was that our heavy plane [unspecified], of 14.5 tonnes, started shaking, the oil pressure rose, and when I leaned towards the window I felt a strong electrostatic charge. I was worried that the plane would burst into flames. It passed us and disappeared, but our plane was still affected. I looked at the wings, and they were covered in electrical discharges.”
Major Bajenov, equally concerned that the plane was about to catch fire, ordered the crew to jettison the bomb load. “The whole plane was fluorescent and the wings were glowing like a rainbow”, said Surikov. “If it had been up to me, I would have carried on and tried to fulfil the mission, and if the plane would have caught fire I would have jumped with a parachute.” The commander, having more experience, believed there was real danger of the plane catching fire and the bombs exploding, so gave orders to jettison the two-tonne bomb load in southwest Ukraine instead of in Romania.
Mentioning nothing about the incident in their report on the mission, Bajenov and Surikov stated merely that they had successfully bombed Romanian oil refineries. “If we had said we had not carried out our mission,” Surikov explained, “we could have been taken to court as cowards.”
Surikov described the unknown object as similar in some respects to the Russian and American space shuttles. “It lit up the air around it. It looked like a localized sunset, but in the centre was a strange-looking flying object. It didn't look at all like the burst of an anti-aircraft shell, which is about 10 metres in diameter. It was larger and longer than our Buran space shuttle - I think about twice as long.”
Years later, Surikov asked scientists for their opinion as to what he had seen. “I was told that one could not rule out the possibility that the electrification of the plane was due to the close proximity of a UFO with a new type of propulsion system which ionized the atmosphere.”
Surikov later became a specialist in rockets and nuclear weapons. For a long time he worked at Soviet Army headquarters as its chief authority on weapons of mass destruction. “But I am proud”, he points out, “to be one of those who developed a treaty on the restriction of anti-missile defence systems. For a long time I worked as an expert in Geneva, where we were trying to promote the disbanding of certain types of weapons of mass destruction - nuclear, radiological, and so on.”
Now retired from the Soviet Armed Forces with the rank of general-major, Surikov specializes in environment problems. He has also pondered the significance of the UFO phenomenon: We cannot rule out the possibility that creatures who may well be superior to us are interested in what is happening to our Earth . . . Scientists with whom I have discussed these matters think that in those civilizations new types of energy have been discovered which allow them to fly very far at great speed, so it is very important for us to study them in order to make use of these discoveries and to improve life on Earth
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[Ref. tns1:] WEBSITE "THE NIGHT SKY":
Date: 1944
Location: Romania
Soviet pilot, Boris Surikov and his commander, Major Bajenov, had their own experience with a large and unrecognizable craft in the air. Perhaps making the incident even more pressured was the fact that the Soviet pilots were carrying a full bomb load.
On course to bomb oil refineries used by the Germans in Romania, the strange object joined them over south Ukraine. The effect on their plane was instant.
The oil pressure began to shoot instantly upwards, while the exterior began to shake violently. Whenever the pilots would get too close to the cockpit window they could also feel an electrical surge. All the while, the undetonated and fully loaded bombs sat ready to fulfill their purpose. These effects would continue even after the craft had vanished from sight.
Eventually, the pilots decided to jettison their bombs right where they were. They then, slowly, allowing for time, made their way back to their base. They would keep the incident to themselves, instead telling their superiors that they had dropped the payload on their targets. To admit abandoning their mission would likely have led the 2 pilots to military charges.
Last Modified: 05/03/2023 01:36:03
We are told the Soviet bomber was probably a Tupolev Tu-2.
It was designed by Sergei Korolev and a strafing and diver bombing fast plane and first flew in January 1941.
Armament in addition of the bombs consisted of 2 ShVAK 20 mm cannons in the wings, 3 ShKAS 7,62 mm machine guns to the rear in the top and belly turrets.
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There was a Major-General Boris Surikov, a USSR missile expert who played a role in the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962.
I found no information on a Major Bajenov.
“Network First” was a British documentary series covering a wide range of subjects such as history, biographies and science. in 1995, there was an episode called “UFO”. The IMDb database indicates the episode featured Gerald Harris, Peter Hill-Norton, Jesse Marcel, Anne Morrison, Bruce Morrison, Nick Pope, Ed Walters, Larry Warren; nothing is said of Boris Shurinov or Boris Shurikov.
To add to the mystery, the witness name “Boris Surikov” is quite close to the name of the well-known Russian ufologist “Boris Shurinov”; who never mentioned this alleged incident.
Possible extraterrestrial craft, or invention.
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| Main author: | Patrick Gross |
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| Contributors: | None |
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| Editor: | Patrick Gross |
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| 0.1 | Patrick Gross | November 27, 2023 | Creation, [tgd1], [get1], [sse1], [tns1]. |
| 1.0 | Patrick Gross | November 27, 2023 | First published. |
| 1.1 | Patrick Gross | July 4, 2024 | Addition [tgd2]. |
