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October 4, 1954, Montceau-les-Mines, Saône-et-Loire:

Reference for this case: 4-oct-54-Montceau. Thank you for including this reference in any correspondence with me regarding this case.

Reports:

[Ref. aml1:] AIME MICHEL:

Aimé Michel indicates that the witnesses were about 20, including two police officers, and that all of them observed at 07:00 P.M. on October 4, 1954, a round luminous object raise from the location called "les Chavannes," in the vicinity of the railway to the coalmines, the object then dazed towards the horizon, all in complete silence. Only the take-off of the object has been observed.

Elsewhere in his book, he tells that he learned of the case by the Charles Garreau file, and that it was reported in Fate magazine.

[Ref. gqy1:] GUY QUINCY:

OBSERVATIONS 1954

October 4

[... other cases...]

07:00 p.m.: Montceau-les-Mines (near,on Road of Blanzy--S&.;-L.): Cig/grnd

[... other cases...]

[Ref. jve5:] JACQUES VALLEE:

172 -004.39551 46.69200 01 10 1954 13 00 1 *MONTCEAU LES MINES F 0017 I

[Ref. jve1:] JACQUES VALLEE:

192

Oct. 04, 1954, 18:30 Montceau-les-Mines (France).

At Les Chavannes, about 20 people, among them Remy Gaudicourt of Sanvignes, saw a circular, luminous object rise from the vicinity of the railroad tracks. It took off vertically. (M 138)

[Ref. jve2:] JACQUES VALLEE:

The author indicates that on October 4, 1954, about twenty people saw a circular, luminous object, that rose in the vicinity of the railway close to Montceau-les-Mines, with the exact place "Les Chavannes." It flew away vertically and disappeared.

[Ref. gal1:] CHARLES GARREAU AND RAYMOND LAVIER:

Charles Garreau and Raymond Lavier report that on October 4, 1954, at about 06:45 P.M., in Sanvignes in the Saone-and-Loire, some twenty witnesses among whose were two gendarmes saw a luminous disc rising at the locality "Les Chavannes", between the buildings located at this place and the railway of the collieries. They specify that the craft did not make any noise and that nobody had noticed its landing.

[Ref. fru1:] MICHEL FIGUET AND JEAN-LOUIS RUCHON:

The two authors indicate that in Sanvignes-les-Mines in the Saone-and-Loire, on October 4, 1954, at 06:30 p.m., twenty people among whose two gendarmes observed a luminous object and circular which rose vertically, at the locality "Chavannes", not far from the railway of the collieries. It then moved away towards the horizon. The takeoff was without noise. There were no witnesses of the landing.

The authors indicate that the sources are the Vallée catalogue, case 192; "A Propos des Soucoupes Volantes" page 174; and "Face aux Extraterrestres" page 60.

[Ref. via1:] "VIMANA 21" UFOLOGY BULLETIN:

MONDAY OCTOBER 4: "CIGARS AND SAUCERS" ARE REPORTED AGAIN -

IN SAINT-BRIEUC: Several people claimed to have seen at 300 or 400 m of them, last night, around 08:45 p.m., a cigar flying at an altitude of 50 m. The machine could be 15 meters long and was intermittently lit with a pink glow. It was moving noiselessly.

IN BREST: Mrs. Henry, farmer, said she saw on Thursday and Friday evening at the same hour in the sky, a purple cylindrical craft that moved noiselessly from west to east.

IN LILLE: Mr. Anicet Corneille, farm worker, said he saw last night in Comines, a machine in the shape of a cigar 8 to 10 meters long and 3 meters wide, which moved at a height of 40 meters, and gave off a bright purple glow. After flying over the city, for a few seconds, the craft reportedly disappeared in the sky. Statement confirmed by a motorist passing through Comines.

IN MONTCEAU LES MINES: Two workers, Messrs. Sebastiani and Buratto, said that they had seen at the edge of the road from Blanzy to Montceau, a craft take off with a shrill whistle. The craft had the shape of a very dark yellow cigar with a length of 3m and a diameter of about 60 to 80 cm.

The source is said to be the newspaper Le Bien Public.

[Ref. lhh1:] LARRY HATCH - "*U* COMPUTER DATABASE":

3964: 1954/10/04 18:30 10 4:24:20 E 46:42:20 N 3333 WEU FRN S&L 7:A

Les CHAVANNES,SANVIGNY,FR:20+COPS:SCR SILENTLY ^/RR TRACKS:/r138#9+LDLN#102

Ref# 30 FIGEUT[sic]&RUCHON: OVNI: Le 1er Dossier Page No. 118 : ROAD+RAILS

[Ref. tps1:] TED PHILLIPS:

Ted Phillips listed the case as a "top" case in his "preliminary list of top cases":

Report 10/4/54 Montceau, France: multiple witness, disc, 10 minutes, traces.

[Ref. lgs1:] LOREN GROSS:

4 October Montceau-les-Mines, France, (about 7.00 a.m.)

Twenty witnesses, including two policemen.

Michel wrote:

"The sighting at Montceau-les-Mines (Saone-et-Loire) is outstanding for the number of witnesses—about twenty, including two policemen. Around 7 p.m., every one of these persons saw a round, luminous object rise vertically from a place called Chavannes, not far from the colliery railroad track, and then shoot away toward the horizon. The object moved in absolute silence. Strangely, in this case only the departure was seen, no one is known to have seen it come down " (xx.)

(xx) Michel, Aime. Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery pp. 138-139

[Ref. djn1:] DONALD JOHNSON:

On this Day

October 4

[...]

1954 - Montceau-les-Mines, France. At 6:30 p.m. about 20 people, among them Remy Gaudicourt of Sanvignes, saw a circular, luminous object rise vertically from the vicinity of the railroad tracks. There were no traces found. (Sources: Aime Michel, Flying Saucers and the Straight Line Mystery, p. 138; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 217; Michel Figuet and Jean-Louis Ruchon, OVNI: Le premier dossier complet des rencontres rapprochees en France, pp. 118).

[...]

[Ref. jbu1:] JEROME BEAU:

Monday, October 4, 1954

[...]

18:30 In Montceau-les-Mines (France), at the location "Les Chavannes", approximately 20 people among them Rémy Gaudicourt, of Sanvignes, see a circular luminous object rising near the railway. It moves away vertically.

[...]

[Ref. lcn1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan notes in his database that in the Saone et Loire in "Sanvignes les mines" on October 4, 1954 at 18:30 hours, "Twenty people including two gendarmes observe a luminous and circular object which rises vertically from the locality 'Les Chavannes,' not far from the railway of the collieries, then moves away towards the horizon. The takeoff is carried out without noise. No witness of the landing."

Luc Chastan indicates as source: "Ovni, Premier dossier complet... by Figuet M./ Ruchon J.L. ** Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979".

[Ref. uda1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 4 October 1954 at 18:30 in Montceau-les-Mines, France, "An object was sighted that had an appearance and performance beyond the capability of known earthly aircraft. One object was observed by 20 witnesses on a railroad for over one minute (Gaudicourt)."

The sources are indicated as: Michel, Aime, Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery, S. G. Phillips, New York, 1958; Bowen, Charles, The Humanoids: FSR Special Edition No. 1, FSR, London, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Computerized Catalog (N = 3073); Vallee, Jacques, Challenge to Science: The UFO Enigma, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Preliminary Catalog (N = 500), (in JVallee01); Vallee, Jacques, A Century of Landings (N = 923), (in JVallee04), Chicago, 1969; Schoenherr, Luis, Computerized Catalog (N = 3173); Hatch, Larry, *U* computer database, Author, Redwood City, 2002.

[Ref. uda2:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 4 October 1954 at 18:30 in Montceau-les-Mines, France, "A circular, luminous object rose from the vicinity of the railroad tracks."

The website adds: "Montceau-les-Mines, France. At 6:30 p.m. about 20 people, among them Remy Gaudicourt of Sanvignes, saw a circular, luminous object rise vertically from the vicinity of the railroad tracks. There were no traces found."

And: "At Les Chavannes, about 20 people, among them Remy Gaudicourt of Sanvignes, saw a circular, luminous object rise from the vicinity of the railroad tracks. It took off vertically. Nocturnal lights were reported."

The source is indicated as: Vallee Magonia Database.

[Ref. nip1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":

*Oct. 4, 1954 - Montceau-les-Mines, France. At 6:30 p.m. about 20 people, among them Remy Gaudicourt of Sanvignes, saw a circular, luminous object rise vertically from the vicinity of the railroad tracks. There were no traces found. (Sources: Aime Michel, Flying Saucers and the Straight Line Mystery, p. 138; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 217, case # 192; Michel Figuet and Jean-Louis Ruchon, OVNI: Le premier dossier complet des rencontres rapprochees en France, pp. 118).

[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded this case 6 times:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19541004 04.10.1954 Montceau Mines France 19.00
19541004 04.10.1954 Montceau Mines France 19.00 CE I
19541004 04.10.1954 Montceau Mines France 19.00 CE I
19541004 04.10.1954 Montceau Mines France 18.30 CE I
19541004 04.10.1954 Montceau Mines France 18.30
19541004 04.10.1954 Les Chavannes France 19.00

[Ref. prn2:] PETER ROGERSON - "INTCAT":

October 4 1954. 1900hrs.

MONTCEAU-LES-MINES (SAONE-ET-LOIRE : FRANCE)

About 20 people, including three policemen and Remy Gaudicourt of Sanvignes saw a circular luminous object take off from a place called "Chavannes" not far from a colliery railway line, and shoot away to the horizon in silence.

Explanations:

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Keywords:

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Montceau-les-Mines, Saône-et-Loire, Rémy Gaudicourt, luminous, circular, vertically, railway, railroad, multiple, police, gendarmes, silent, take-off, fast, vertically, horizontally

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0.1 Patrick Gross March 10, 2003 First published.
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1.1 Patrick Gross June 19, 2010 Addition [jve5].
1.2 Patrick Gross September 13, 2014 Addition [lgs1].
1.3 Patrick Gross October 9, 2014 Addition [nip1].
1.4 Patrick Gross December 21, 2016 Addition [nip1].
1.5 Patrick Gross September 27, 2021 Additions [gqy1], [via1], [lhh1], [prn2].

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