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September 28, 1954, Froncles, Haute-Marne:

Reference number for this case: 28-sep-54-Froncles. Thank you for including this reference number in any correspondence with me regarding this case.

Reports:

[Ref. aml1:] AIME MICHEL:

Aimé Michel indicates that the next day after the observation of September 27, 1954 in Froncles, there was again an observation of unidentified flying machines there, at 09:30 p.m..

That evening, a dark night wrapped the area and the sky was entirely covered by thick clouds.

At 09:30 p.m., Miss Georgette Mongot, living in place de la Fontaine, went outside on her doorstep and immediately noticed a rather broad luminous spot above the Marnant hill, in the North-West of the area.

Very puzzled, Georgette Mongot looked at this spot one moment. She saw it changing from red to green, keep a few moments this color, then change back to red, the whole without changing place and in a total silence. At the end of five minutes, whereas the change of color had occurred several times, the spot started to go down slowly.

Wanting that somebody confirms her observation before it is too late, she rushed at her neighbors', Mr. and Mrs. Alexis Lartillot. The three witnesses saw the spot dropping slowly and disappearing finally, hidden by nearby trees. One moment after its disappearance, the spot had, according to them, to have strongly increase its luminosity, because a powerful light spouted out from the point of the supposed landing, and lengthily lighted the base of the clouds.

Then, all disappeared.

He indicates that the source is Le Haut-Marnais Républicain for Otober 2.

[Ref. jve2:] JACQUES VALLEE:

The author indicates that on September 28, 1954, in Froncles, three witnesses observed a large shining object which oscillated then landed and changed color.

[Ref. jve1:] JACQUES VALLEE:

161

Sep. 28, 1954 09:30 P.M. Froncles, colline Momont (France).

Mr. and Mrs. Alexis Lartillot and Georgette Mongot observed a large, bright object oscillate, then land. It changed color and was lost to sight behind some trees. (21; M 94) (Le Haut-Marnais, 2 Oct. 1954).

[Ref. ldl1:] MAGAZINE D'UFOLOGIE "LUMIERES DANS LA NUIT":

The magazine lists this case as one of those that need an investigation or a new investigation:

"161 9/28/54 Froncles"

[Ref. prn1:] PETER ROGERSON:

335 28 September 1954 2130 FRONCLES (FRANCE)

M. and Mme Alexis Lartillot and Mlle Georgette Mongot observed a large bright object oscillate, then land. It changed colour and was lost to sight behind some trees.

(Ml61; Haut-Marnais, 7 October 1954; Michel II, 94)

[Ref. gal1:] CHARLES GARREAU ET RAYMOND LAVIER:

The two ufologists and authors indicate that on September 29, 1954, in Froncles in the Haute-Marne, according to newspapers clipping and their personal file, at 09:30 P.M., Mrs. Georgette left her place. She told:

"I then see a broad luminous spot above Moment hill, in the North-West of the village. It changes color constantly, going from red to green, then, after a few moment, returns to red. But it remains motionless and does not make any noise. I lasted perhaps five minutes. And then, it starts to go down slowly. Seeing that, I rush at my neighbors', Mr. and Mrs. Alexis Lartillon. Then, all the three, we see the spot dropping slowly and disappearing behind nearby trees. At the end of a few minutes, a powerful light spouts out at the location of landing. All the base of the clouds is illuminated by it lengthily. And then everything dies out."

Mrs. Georgette and the two other witnesses were deeply impressed and returned to their premises after having still observed a quarter of hour in vain for a possible continuation.

[Ref. fru1:] MICHEL FIGUET AND JEAN-LOUIS RUCHON:

The two authors indicate that in Froncles in the Haute-Marne, on September 28, 1954, at 09:30 p.m., Mrs. Mongot left her home when she saw a broad luminous spot which went alternatively from red to green. The spot was motionless above the Momont hill and there was no noise. Mrs. Mongeot observed during 5 minutes. The object then descended slowly. Mrs. Mongot warned her neighbors, Mr. and Mrs. Lartillot, and they also observed the spot which disappeared behind trees. At the end of a few minutes a powerful light spout out of the point of landing. All the base of the clouds was lengthily illuminated, then all died out.

[Ref. jfe1:] JEAN-FRANCOIS GILLE:

The author cites this case as part of a group of three cases arranged in an isosceles triangles according to Jean-Charles Fumoux.

[Ref. jfe2:] JEAN-FRANCOIS GILLE:

UFO LANDINGS ON THE CONTINENTAL TERRITORY OF FRANCE
FROM SEPTEMBER 26, 1954 TO OCTOBER 18, 1954
ICOD DESIGNATION (57) DATE JV4 JV1 COMMENTS
006 0540 FRONCLES RF52 540928 or 29 161

ICOD is an internal code in the listing. (57) is column 57 of the UFOCAT computer catalog initiated by the Condon Committee. JV4 is the case number in Jacques Vallée's listing of "Chroniques...". JV1 is the case number in Jacques Vallée's Magonia listing.

[Ref. bbr1:] GERARD BARTHEL AND JACQUES BRUCKER:

The authors indicate that the newspapers are accustomed to deforming testimonys of meteors by their observers and that it was the case with the sighting in the Haute-Marne in Froncles on September 28, 1954.

[Ref. mft3:] MICHEL FIGUET:

Nr of the J. C. Fumoux list Nr of theFrancat list Localization Date Class Credibility Sources Number of W
006 83 Froncles 28/09 CE0 E [=Expliqué] 4-p 11 3 T

[Ref. mft1:] MICHEL FIGUET:

CAS Nr CLASSIFICATION DATE HOUR PLACE ZIP CODE CREDIBILITY SOURCE
83 CE0 28 09 1954 Froncles 52320 C3 E (meteor) B-B p. 11

[Ref. lhh1:] LARRY HATCH - "*U* COMPUTER DATABASE":

3858: 1954/09/28 21:30 2 5:08:40 E 48:08:20 N 3333 WEU FRN HMR 7:8

FRONCLES,FR:3 OBS:LRG BRITE UFO OSCs+LANDS:CHANGES COLOR:>BHND TREES:/LDLN#102

Ref# 8 VALLEE,Jacques: PASSPORT TO MAGONIA. Case No. 161 : RESIDENT'L

[Ref. goe1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

The Belgian ufologist indicates that in 1954, on the 28 (or 29?) September, in France, in Froncles, hill Momont (Brittany), "21:30 - Mr. and Mrs. Alexis Lartillot and Miss Georgette Mongot observed a large shining object which oscillated then lands and changed color; it disappeared behind the trees".

The sources are noted "Haut-Marnais, 2 Oct. 1954" with thanks to Wim van Utrecht, and "Jacques Vallée: 'Chronique des apparitions ET' - DENOEL 1972 - J'AI LU COLL. - p. 261".

[Ref. djn1:] DONALD JOHNSON:

Encounters With Aliens On This Day

September 28

[...]

1954 - At 9:30 p.m. Georgette Mongot and Mr. and Mrs. Alexis Lartillot in Froncles, France observed a large, bright object oscillate, then land. It changed color and was lost to sight behind some trees. (Sources: Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia, p. 212; Aime Michel, Mysterieux Objets celestes, p. 94; Michel Figuet and Jean-Louis Ruchon, OVNI: Le premier dossier complet des rencontres rapprochees en France, pp. 92).

[Ref. chy1:] CHRISTOPHER HUMPHREY:

The author says that according to Jacques Vallée's case 24, on September 28, in Froncles, three witnesses observed a large bright object that oscillated then landed and changed color. A source note says "Bowen, p. 33".

[Ref. jbu1:] JEROME BEAU:

September 1954

28

21:30 In Froncles, hill Momont (France), Mr. and Mrs. Alexis Lartillot and Miss Georgette Mongot observe a large shining object, oscillating then landing and changing color; it disappears behind the trees.

The sources are noted as: "Haut-Marnais, October 2, 1954"; "Vallée, J., case #24, 'Rapport sur l'analyse de 200 observations documentées faites en 1954'".

[Ref. lcn1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan indicates in his database that in the Haute Marne (52) in Froncles on September 27, 1954 at 13:15 hours, "a woman residing rue de l'Usine, followed with her eyes the passage of three planes when she saw behind them in the direction of North a brilliant body which obviously reflected the sunlight. It was yellow on the Western side and blue on the Eastern side. She used binoculars and then distinguished that it was a flat object. The object was initially motionless, then suddenly slipped by towards the North-West, stopped then for two minutes, set out again suddenly and repeated this operation five times before leaving out of sight towards the North-West. The witness' husband was also witness of this observation."

The source is indicated as: "M.O.C. by Michel Aimé ** Arthaud 1958".

[Ref. lcn2:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan indicates that in the Haute Marne in Froncles on September 28, 1954, at 21:30, "A woman leaves home and sees a broad luminous spot which passes alternatively from the red to the green, it is motionless hovering and without noise, above the Momont hill. The witness observes it during 5 minutes. The object then goes down slowly. The witness alerts her neighbors, they observed the spot which disappears behind the trees, at the end of a few minutes a powerful light spouts out of the landing place. All the base of the clouds is illuminated lengthily. And then, everything dies out."

The sources are noted: "Ovni, Premier dossier complet... by Figuet M./ Ruchon J.L. ** Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979", "M.O.C. by Michel Aimé ** Arthaud 1958".

[Ref. uda1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 28 September 1954, in France, at 21:30 in Froncles, "Mr. and Mrs. Alexis Lartillot and Georgette Mongot observed a large, bright object oscillate, then land."

And: "At 9:30 p.m. Georgette Mongot and Mr. and Mrs. Alexis Lartillot in Froncles, France observed a large, bright object oscillate, then land. It changed color and was lost to sight behind some trees."

And: "Mr. and Mrs. Alexis Lartillot and Georgette Mongot observed a large, bright object oscillate, then land. It changed color and was lost to sight behind some trees."

And: "An object was sighted that had an appearance and performance beyond the capability of known earthly aircraft."

And: "One star was observed by three witnesses in a residential area for over five minutes."

The sources are listed as Michel, Aime, Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery, S. G. Phillips, New York, 1958; Bowen, Charles, The Humanoids: FSR Special Edition No. 1, FSR, London, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Computerized Catalog (N = 3073); Vallee, Jacques, A Century of Landings (N = 923), (in JVallee04), Chicago, 1969; Schoenherr, Luis, Computerized Catalog (N = 3173); Rogerson, Peter, World-Wide Catalog of Type 1 Reports; Hatch, Larry, *U* computer database, Author, Redwood City, 2002.

[Ref. nip1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":

*Sep. 28, 1954 - At 9:30 p.m. Georgette Mongot and Mr. and Mrs. Alexis Lartillot in Froncles, France observed a large, bright object oscillate, then land. It changed color and was lost to sight behind some trees. (Sources: Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia, p. 212; Aime Michel, Mysterieux Objets celestes, p. 94; Michel Figuet & Jean-Louis Ruchon, OVNI: Le premier dossier complet des rencontres rapprochees en France, pp. 92).

[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded this case 8 times:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19540927 27.09.1954 Froncles France 13.15
19540927 27.09.1954 Froncles France 13.15
19540928 28.09.1954 Froncles France 21.30 CE II
19540928 28.09.1954 Froncles Momont France 21.30 CE I
19540928 28.09.1954 Froncles France 21.30 CE I
19540928 28.09.1954 Froncles France 21.30 CE I
19540928 28.09.1954 Froncles France
19540928 28.09.1954 Froncles Momont France 21.30 CE II

[Ref. prn2:] PETER ROGERSON - "INTCAT":

September 28 1954. 2130hrs.

FRONCLES (HAUTE MARNE : FRANCE)

Miss Georgette Mongot went to her doorstep in the Place de la Fontaine and noticed a wide luminous spot over the Momonet Hill in the North West. It changed from to green and back again several times in five minutes and began to slowly descend until hidden by trees. The object lit up the clouds for some time after being lost to view behind the trees.It was also seen by Alexis Lartillot and his wife.

Evaluation - Astronomical?

Notes:

A source without references notes that in Froncles, Haute-Marne, at 09:30 P.M., "Mrs. Georgette Mongot comes out of her home:"

"I then see a large luminous spot above the Moment hill, in the North-West of the village. It changes color continuously, passes from red to green, then, after a few moments, returns to red. But it remains motionless and does not make any noise. It lasts perhaps 5 minutes. And then it starts to go down slowly. Seeing that, I rush at my neighbors', Mr. and Mrs. Alexis Lartillon [Lartillot?]. Then, all three, we see the spot slowly go down and disappearing behind close trees. At the end of a few minutes, a powerful light spouts out of the point of landing. All the cloud base is lengthily illuminated by it. And then, everything died out."

"Deeply impressed, the three witnesses return on their premises after having vainly awaited for nearly a quarter of hour a new luminous display."

Explanations:

Map.

Venus, and coincidental illumination at the ground? Or meteor sighting exagerated by a newspaper?

Another explanation is possible:

In the Press for September 24, 1954, it was said that "the biggest aerial drill in Europe", operation "Etoile Filante" ("Shooting Star"), will take place, by NATO Air Forces, above France and Germany.

Historically, these "Shooting Star" maneuvers including "Indian Summer" lasted from 20 to 27 September 1954, involving the new NATO dispersal base of Damblain, implicating hosts of the F-84G Thunderjet of the 3rd Fighter Wing from Reims and the 2/3 Fighters Wing also using F-84G's.

It so happens that the Damblain air base is just 39 km in straight line in the Southeast of Froncles.

The air bases of Lunéville, and Lahr-Hugsweier in Germany, among others undoubtedly, participated.

The maneuvers were conducted under realistic conflict conditions, the planes were parked outdoors where maintenance was also done, and the airmen lived and slept in camouflaged tents.

Keywords:

(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

Froncles, Haute-Marne, colline Momont, Alexis Lartillot, Georgette Mongot, large, object, bright, oscillation, lading, changing color

Sources:

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Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross February 5, 2007 First published.
1.0 Patrick Gross February 21, 2010 Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [goe1], [chy1], [jbu1], [lcn1], [uda1].
1.1 Patrick Gross November 15, 2014 Addition [nip1].
1.2 Patrick Gross February 9, 2017 Addition [ubk1].
1.3 Patrick Gross September 28, 2019 Additions [ldl1], [jfe1], [jfe2], [mft3], [mft1], [prn1], [lhh1], [prn2], Summary.

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