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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

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JULY 30, 1978, AND ON, NYONS, DROME, FRANCE, THREE YOUNG PEOPLE:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

Jean Paul Ronecker indicated in his 2001 book on aliens that among the close encounters of the third kind, there are also encounters with invisible beings, such that of the area of Nyons in 1978.

He says that in the evening of July 30, 1978, at about 11 - 11:30 p.m., three teenagers from 16 to 17 years old, two boys and a girl, took part in an astronomy bootcamp in the mountain near Nyons, in the Drôme. The group, whose other members had remained in Nyons for the night and were to arrive only the next morning, was lodged in a farm at about fifteen kilometers approximately of the city. The three young people were only at this time as the family which accomodated them was already in bed.

They went out to observe sky and have noticed curious luminous object whose rhombus shape was visible with the binoculars, which passed several times above them, for finally hovering above the nearby wood. The young people decided to go to see more closely, but when they were at about fifty meters approximately of the wood, the object suddenly disappeared in the spot with no move, it was not simply suddenly not there anymore.

The young people thought that it had perhaps landed behind a clearing and continued to advance, but they did not know the places yet and could not find a path to penetrate the wood, their only source of light being a flashlight.

After having fought a few minutes with the heavy undergrowth, they gave up, but the next day, they went back to the spot, and found that there was indeed a path in front of which they had passed without seeing it in the night.

They borrowed this path and came to a clearing at the end of a few minutes. They are quoted saying:

"As soon as we emerged in the clearing, we noticed a large yellowed and hardened grass circle, which seemed burned. It was approximately five meters in diameter, perhaps a little more. Thereafter, Mr X, who lodged us, showed us in the mountain circular grass zones appearing yellowed from the distance, but which were actually grass grazed by his sheep. But the circle of the clearing was different, the grass was desiccated there, not grazed, and the roots like were burned, dry and friable. And, in any event, Mr X confirmed to us that he never took his sheep to feed in the wood."

The next day, the three young people went back to the clearing, but did not find anything new.

One of them believed to see, in the trees, a silhouette of small size, like covered in silver clothing, but he was not sure and easily conceded that it might have been just an illusion.

They then decided to cross the wood because there was a kind of quarry on the other side there were many fossils. Later, after having picked up some ammonites, they went down again towards the farm by taking a stony path skirted by the wood, on a side, and by a field of lavender, on the other side. They are quoted saying:

"We were at the top of the way and we discussed, stopping frequently. It is there that we heard a noise coming from the wood. We first did not pay attention, thinking that a member of our group was walking in the wood, just like we had done little before. We thus continued to discuss quietly. The noise persisted and approached. It was exactly the noise produced by somebody walking in the wood, breaking branches and making noise with the bushes of the underwood. As the noise was near now, we automatically looked in its direction. (As I said, we expected to see one of our comrades of the boot camp. But we saw nothing, nothing at all. At this time, we were not at all afraid, we were simply puzzled. It was weird all the same, this noise of step which appeared to come at this time from three or four meters at most whereas we did not see its source."

"The underwood was certainly quite thick, but the trees were rather sparse. It was a clear day, our vision went all the same rather far in the wood. However, we saw nothing at all, we only heard this noise of steps which approached more and more. That could not be somebody trying to scare us while walking and hiding from tree to tree or hiding behind the bushes. First, the noise did not match that but was indeed of someone walking quietly, second, if that had been the case, we would have seen him all the same."

"So then we started to be anxious, even if we do not want to admit it. Instinctively, we moved back two or three steps, I think. Then, we again stopped, watching. The noise of steps had stopped too, during maybe one or two seconds, then it began again. It was very near now and there was still nothing visible. A second time, we heard the steps on the way, making the gravel grate. We were perhaps within one meter fifty from the edge of the way. There, we really had the jitters and we ran like hell to the farm without looking back."

"We did not tell anything to the others, because they were very skeptics on what we had seen the first night, also, perharps, because we were not very proud of us, to have surrendered to panic like that."

"The next day or two days later, I am not very sure of the day anymore, I experienced again, alone this time, the same thing on this same way. I had sat on a slope at the edge of the field of lavender, the back at the wood, so, when I again heard steps coming from the underwood, frightened by the previous adventure, I leaped at once on my feet and I looked back. There was again nothing visible there. Immediately, the noises of steps arrived on the way and came towards me. I did not ask for more and I fled like a rabbit... Definitely, I am not very courageous."

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001263
Date of event: July 30, 1978, and on
Earliest report of event: 2001?
Delay of report: 23 years?
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: Ufology bulletin.
First certain record by: Ufology catalogue Rosales.
First alleged record type: Ufology bulletin.
First certain record type: Ufology catalogue.
This file created on: May 22, 2010
This file last updated on: May 22, 2010
Country of event: France
State/Department: Drôme
Type of location: In and near a wood.
Lighting conditions: Night
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: Yes
UFO departure observed: No
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages:
Witnesses types: Not reported.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: Uncertain
Type of entities: Silhouette, and invisible
Entities height: Small, and invisible
Entities outfit type: Not reported, and invsisible.
Entities outfit color: Silver, and invisible.
Entities skin color: Not seen, and invisible.
Entities body: Silhouette, and invisible.
Entities head: Not reported, and invisible.
Entities eyes: Not seen, and invisible.
Entities mouth: Not seen, and invisible.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Is there, footseps noises but generally invisible, after alleged UFO sighting.
Entities/witness interactions: None.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, tried to observe in vain, fled.
Witness(es) feelings: Not frightened, then frightened.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Possible confusions, teenagers scaring themselves.
Explanation certainty: Low.

Narratives:

[Ref. jr1:] JEAN-PAUL RONECKER:

The author indicates that among the close encounters of the third kind, there are also encounters with invisible beings, such that of the area of Nyons in 1978.

He says that in the evening of July 30, 1978, at about 11 - 11:30 p.m., three teenagers from 16 to 17 years old, two boys and a girl, took part in an astronomy bootcamp in the mountain near Nyons, in the Drôme. The group, whose other members had remained in Nyons for the night and were to arrive only the next morning, was lodged in a farm at about fifteen kilometers approximately of the city. The three young people were only at this time as the family which accomodated them was already in bed.

They went out to observe sky and have noticed curious luminous object whose rhombus shape was visible with the binoculars, which passed several times above them, for finally hovering above the nearby wood. The young people decided to go to see more closely, but when they were at about fifty meters approximately of the wood, the object suddenly disappeared in the spot with no move, it was not simply suddenly not there anymore.

The young people thought that it had perhaps landed behind a clearing and continued to advance, but they did not know the places yet and could not find a path to penetrate the wood, their only source of light being a flashlight.

After having fought a few minutes with the heavy undergrowth, they gave up, but the next day, they went back to the spot, and found that there was indeed a path in front of which they had passed without seeing it in the night.

They borrowed this path and came to a clearing at the end of a few minutes. They are quoted saying:

"As soon as we emerged in the clearing, we noticed a large yellowed and hardened grass circle, which seemed burned. It was approximately five meters in diameter, perhaps a little more. Thereafter, Mr X, who lodged us, showed us in the mountain circular grass zones appearing yellowed from the distance, but which were actually grass grazed by his sheep. But the circle of the clearing was different, the grass was desiccated there, not grazed, and the roots like were burned, dry and friable. And, in any event, Mr X confirmed to us that he never took his sheep to feed in the wood."

The next day, the three young people went back to the clearing, but did not find anything new.

One of them believed to see, in the trees, a silhouette of small size, like covered in silver clothing, but he was not sure and easily conceded that it might have been just an illusion.

They then decided to cross the wood because there was a kind of quarry on the other side there were many fossils. Later, after having picked up some ammonites, they went down again towards the farm by taking a stony path skirted by the wood, on a side, and by a field of lavender, on the other side. They are quoted saying:

"We were at the top of the way and we discussed, stopping frequently. It is there that we heard a noise coming from the wood. We first did not pay attention, thinking that a member of our group was walking in the wood, just like we had done little before. We thus continued to discuss quietly. The noise persisted and approached. It was exactly the noise produced by somebody walking in the wood, breaking branches and making noise with the bushes of the underwood. As the noise was near now, we automatically looked in its direction. (As I said, we expected to see one of our comrades of the boot camp. But we saw nothing, nothing at all. At this time, we were not at all afraid, we were simply puzzled. It was weird all the same, this noise of step which appeared to come at this time from three or four meters at most whereas we did not see its source."

"The underwood was certainly quite thick, but the trees were rather sparse. It was a clear day, our vision went all the same rather far in the wood. However, we saw nothing at all, we only heard this noise of steps which approached more and more. That could not be somebody trying to scare us while walking and hiding from tree to tree or hiding behind the bushes. First, the noise did not match that but was indeed of someone walking quietly, second, if that had been the case, we would have seen him all the same."

"So then we started to be anxious, even if we do not want to admit it. Instinctively, we moved back two or three steps, I think. Then, we again stopped, watching. The noise of steps had stopped too, during maybe one or two seconds, then it began again. It was very near now and there was still nothing visible. A second time, we heard the steps on the way, making the gravel grate. We were perhaps within one meter fifty from the edge of the way. There, we really had the jitters and we ran like hell to the farm without looking back."

"We did not tell anything to the others, because they were very skeptics on what we had seen the first night, also, perharps, because we were not very proud of us, to have surrendered to panic like that."

"The next day or two days later, I am not very sure of the day anymore, I experienced again, alone this time, the same thing on this same way. I had sat on a slope at the edge of the field of lavender, the back at the wood, so, when I again heard steps coming from the underwood, frightened by the previous adventure, I leaped at once on my feet and I looked back. There was again nothing visible there. Immediately, the noises of steps arrived on the way and came towards me. I did not ask for more and I fled like a rabbit... Definitely, I am not very courageous."

Points to consider:

I found that in the "Bulletin de la Société Astronomique de France", volume 92, of 1978, there is an announcement members of the astronomy club of the Henri Poincaré college of Nancy going to summer camp in Nyons from the 1st to the 15th of August, 1978.

As of the report, I am unable to evaluate it: was it just teenager scaring themselves about nothing, or something really strange? An investigation would have been welcome, in particular on the alleged trace, but I found no investigation report or further information.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Ufology Severe May 22, 2010 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Three people involved but it seems only one of them talked about it. Help needed. Opened.
3 Ufology Severe May 22, 2010 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross No investigation report found. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Possible confusions, teenagers scaring themselves.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross May 22, 2010 Creation, [jr1].
1.0 Patrick Gross May 22, 2010 First published.

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