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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

1968 AND FEBRUARY 15, 1978, NEAR MONTREAL, QUEBEC, CANADA, "MARTINE":

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

In on of his late and most whimsical UFO books, Jimmy Guieu told that in the beginning of November 1984, he was in Montreal, he met a 21 year old woman, "Martine", described as a "pretty woman, fit, relaxed, not very eager to go into metaphysical issues", working in a big store and living in Quebec with her boyfriend.

She agreed to tell "an astonishing adventure" she had lived at the age of 15, at her parents', living a quite isolated house about 50 kilometers from Montreal.

During the night of February 15, 1978, she was suddenly awaked and sat down in her bed. A strong luminosity came from the window of her bedroom and she felt unable to move. Very close to the ground, in the garden, there was a strange luminous craft in the shape of dome hovering above the snow, motionless, with pulsating colored lights at the base and at its top.

There was son message urging the girl to "join us" and she "mentally shouted" her refusal: "No, I will not come for I am materialist, very attached to the ordinary pleasures of life. You, you are advanced spiritually and extremely distant to my concerns. Leave me, spirituality does not interest me".

After "a time difficult to evaluate" claimed to be more than one hour, her paralysis stopped and the craft took off slowly. The panicked girl ran to awake her parents who could see by the window, "without possible error the ship which, staying at several meters from the ground, moved away with its multicolored pulsating lights."

The mother is said to have formally confirmed to Jimmy Guieu she had seen this craft taking altitude and going away to the east, and she dismisses "the assumption of a dream, of a nightmare" since the father, the mother and their daughter "had unquestionably observed the same object, and described it with the same details."

After the girl told her story, Guieu had some sort of vision of the right ankle of the young woman but as an ankle of a young girl. He interrogated the mother to know whether the daughter when she was a child and played outside close to the house could have escaped and come back in the late evening.

The astonished mother said this happened: when she was five or six years, her daughter went one day to have some fun in the wood, moved away, she missed several hours, returned in the evening and was severely scolded by her parents. She had just said she had some fun and that she remembered nothing else, but the next day her right ankle had started to swell, almost doubling in volume, but without causing pain to her.

The parents noticed a small trace of puncture at the top of the ankle, undoubtedly an insect bite, and the doctor prescribed a drug in local application. But the swelling persisted during one week and the trace of puncture became more visible. Martine's father noticed a dark spine there, "undoubtedly the prickly one of a porcupine?" and the mother extracted it with tweezers.

The girl claimed not to have felt a puncture and not to have approached any porcupine or similar animal in the wood. At the time of her plays, she had not felt a puncture. The spine was dark russet-red and measured well ten centimeters by one or two millimeters in diameter, with a section rather triangular than round, with the softened edges, like polished. It was washed and preserved on a shelf, the ankle swell went and all was back to normal. The father threw the spine away some 15 days later and, says Guieu, "the implant that beings from elsewhere had probably grafted in the ankle of a young girl was thus lost."

Jimmy Guieu speculates that the implant was a "spying device", "testing the carrier and sending back information to a probe orbiting the Earth" or "a lure intended to be discovered, extirpated from the flesh but leaving in situ a much smaller implant" that would not be found find while it would continue "to emit localizing impulses; wave trains allowing to follow the carrier and to locate her at the proper time" like in the night episode 10 years later.

Jimmy Guieu then expresses his "certainty:" during her escape in the wood, the kid was brought on board a spaceship to undergo an examination then the implanting of the 'tracking device'."

He asked the girl to undergo hypnosis "in order to revive these events which had not left any trace in her conscious memory" and she accepted but one week later she did not want any more to talk about this old story.

Jimmy Guieu then wonders "How many children, during an escape, returning on their premises with a light wound, were thus placed under control by 'visitors' who all not are — far from that — benevolent... " and he invites people who would have experienced this to write to him.

About a decade later a quite minimalist version of the story entered two ufology catalogues including one about "close encounters of the third kind."

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001256
Date of event: 1968 and February 15, 1978
Earliest report of event: 1994?
Delay of report: 16 years?
Witness reported via: Witness allegedly told it to Jimmy Guieu.
First alleged record by: N/A.
First certain record by: UFO book Jimmy Guieu.
First alleged record type: N/A.
First certain record type: UFO book.
This file created on: November 22, 2011
This file last updated on: November 22, 2011
Country of event: Canada
State/Department: Quebec
Type of location: In bed in bedroom then from window.
Lighting conditions: Night
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: Yes
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 0 to 3
Witnesses ages: 15, and two adults.
Witnesses types: Not reported. young girl, he mother, her father.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: Not seen
Type of entities: Not seen
Entities height: Not seen
Entities outfit type: Not seen.
Entities outfit color: Not seen.
Entities skin color: Not seen.
Entities body: Not seen.
Entities head: Not seen.
Entities eyes: Not seen.
Entities mouth: Not seen.
Entities nose: Not seen.
Entities feet: Not seen.
Entities arms: Not seen.
Entities fingers: Not seen.
Entities fingers number: Not seen.
Entities hair: Not seen.
Entities voice: Telepathy.
Entities actions: Sent telepathic message asking witness to join them.
Entities/witness interactions: Sent telepathic message asking witness to join them.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, refused to join them, gets other witnesses.
Witness(es) feelings: Panicked.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Source without credibility.
Explanation certainty: High.

Narratives:

[Ref. jg1:] JIMMY GUIEU:

The author indicates that in the beginning of November 1984, he was in Montreal with the editor Louise Courteau, working on the book "La Conspiration Cosmique", by Stan Deyo, when they were stopped by the visit of a friend of Louise Courteau accompanied by a 21 year old woman described as a "pretty woman, fit, relaxed, not very eager to go into metaphysical issues", working in a big store and living in Quebec with her boyfriend.

She agreed to tell "an astonishing adventure" she had lived at the age of 15, at her parents', living a quite isolated house about 50 kilometers from Montreal.

During the night of February 15, 1978, she was suddenly awaked and sat down in her bed. A strong luminosity came from the window of her bedroom and she felt unable to move. Very close to the ground, in the garden, there was a strange luminous craft in the shape of dome hovering above the snow, motionless, with pulsating colored lights at the base and at its top.

Jimmy Guieu continues with this short dialogue:

"— You stand up and join us..."

"— No!"

The author indicates that she yelled mentally and thought "No, I will not come for I am materialist, very attached to the ordinary pleasures of life. You, you are advanced spiritually and extremely distant to my concerns. Leave me, spirituality does not interest me" and adds that she does not remember exactly anymore "the 'telepathic terms' that she opposed to the request of the occupants of the ship", but that the sentence above translated rather well the contents of her refusal.

After a time difficult to evaluate indicated as more than one hour undoubtedly the paralysis stopped and the craft took off slowly. The panicked girl ran to awake her parents who could see by the window, "without possible error the ship which, staying at several meters from the ground, moved away with its multicolored pulsating lights."

The mother formally confirmed to Jimmy Guieu she had seen this craft taking altitude and going away to the east, and she dismisses "the assumption of a dream, of a nightmare" since the father, the mother and their daughter "had unquestionably observed the same object, and described it with the same details."

Jimmy Guieu indicates that when the story was completed the image of the right ankle of the young woman invaded his mind but as an ankle of a young girl. He voided "referring to this 'flash' and questioned the mother to know whether the daughter when she was a child and played outside close to the house could have escaped and come back in the late evening.

Jimmy Guieu indicates that the mother was astonished and told him of such an escapade, that the author says to be conform to his unexpected "vision" and "its unexpected sequels."

When she was five or six years, the girl went one day to have some fun in the wood, moved away, she missed several hours, returned un the evening and was severely scolded by her parents. She had simply said she had some fun and that she remembered nothing else, but the next day her right ankle had started to swell, almost doubling in volume, but without causing pain to her.

The parents noticed a small trace of puncture at the top of the ankle, undoubtedly an insect bite, the doctor prescribed a drug in local application, but the swelling persisted during one week and the trace of puncture became more visible. Martine's father noticed a dark spine there, "undoubtedly the prickly one of a porcupine?" and the mother extracted it with tweezers.

The girl claimed not to have felt a puncture and not to have approached a porcupine in the wood, this kind of animal. At the time of her plays, she had not felt a puncture. The spine was dark russet-red and measured well ten centimeters by one or two millimeters in diameter, with a section rather triangular than round, with the softened edges, like polished. It was washed and preserved on a shelf, the ankle swell went and all was back to normal. The father threw the spine away some 15 days later and "the implant that beings from elsewhere had probably grafted in the ankle of a young girl was thus lost."

Jimmy Guieu speculates that the implant was a "spying device", "testing the carrier and sending back information to a probe orbiting the Earth" or "a lure intended to be discovered, extirpated from the flesh but leaving in situ a much smaller implant" that would not be found find while it would continue "to emit localizing impulses; wave trains allowing to follow the carrier and to locate her at the proper time" like in the night episode 10 years later.

Jimmy Guieu expresses then his "certainty:" during her escape in the wood, the kid was brought on board a spaceship to undergo an examination then the implanting of the 'tracking device'."

He asked the girl to undergo hypnosis "in order to revive these events which had not left any trace in her conscious memory" and she accepted but one week later she did not want to talk any more about this old story.

Jimmy Guieu then wonders "How many children, during an escape, returning on their premises with a light wound, were thus placed under control by 'visitors' who all not are — far from that — benevolent... " and he invites people who would have experienced this to write to him.

[Ref. go1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

The Belgian ufologist indicates that in Canada, close to Montreal, on February 15, 1978, "During the night the 15 year old teenager is suddenly awaked and sitting in her bed. From the window of her bedroom a strong clearness arrives and she feels unable to move. Very close to the ground in the garden, a strange luminous apparatus in the shape of a dome hovers above the snow, motionless. At the base and its top coloured lights pulsate."

"- You will stand up and join us..."

"No! This mute cry, she howled it mentally and, an idea, an extremely astonishing argumentation pushed her to formulate this thought:"

"- Not, I will not come for I am materialist, very attached to the ordinary joys of life. You, you are advanced spiritually and extremely distant from my concerns. Leave me, spirituality does not interest me (...) After a time difficult to evaluate - more than one hour undoubtedly - the paralysis ceased and the machine, with slowness, rose. Thrown into a panic the girl ran to awake her parents. The latter, by the window, could see without possible error the ship which hovered several meters above the ground, moved away with its polychrome pulsating lights (...)"

The source is indicated as "Jimmy GUIEU: 'Nos maîtres les extraterrestres' - Presses de la Cité 1992, p. 35 to 38".

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that near Montreal, Quebec, Canada, on February 15, 1978, late at night, a 15-year old teenager abruptly woke up in her bed. She sees a strong light emanating from the window and is unable to move. However she is able to see out the window and sees hovering very close to the ground in the garden a strange luminous object shaped like a dome, which was completely motionless. The craft had pulsating multi-colored lights on its top. Suddenly she heard a voice in her head that said: "We will pick you up and you will join us" Terrified she answered in her mind" "No I will not come with you because I am materialistic and very attached to banal joys of life" "You are advanced spiritually and extremely distant from my concerns. Leave me, spirituality does not interest me". After about an hour of constant mental struggle her paralysis subsided and she was finally able to move. The dome-shaped machine slowly then rose up. Terrified she ran for her parents who saw the slowly ascending object emitting multicolored flashes of light.

Albert Rosales indicates that the source is "Jimmy Guieu, 'Nos maîtres les extraterrestres'."

Points to consider:

At that time, Jimmy Guieu's credibility as a ufologist had already been rightfully shattered by its support of the Cergy-Pontoise hoax and whimsical talkd about space invaders. There is no reason at all to find any credibility to this story.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
None.

Evaluation:

Source without credibility.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross November 22, 2011 Creation, [jg1], [go1], [ar1].
1.0 Patrick Gross November 22, 2011 First published.

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