URECAT -> Homeclick!

Cette page en françaisCliquez!

URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

1930, Vernonia, Oregon, USA, a child:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

Ufologist Michael Swords is reported to have collected the following story from ufologist John Timmerman, and he reportedly noted it in a collection of cases from the witness reports file at the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS).

The witness was a young boy at the time of the incident. He reportedly saw an object in the shape of hovercraft near the ground. A ladder would have been extended to the ground and two little men in a brilliant outfit came out.

One of them allegedly directed an instrument towards the child, which caused him to lose consciousness.

This is supposed to have happened in 1930 in Vernonia, Oregon, USA. The witness allegedly agreed to tell these snippets of his story to an investigator, probably John Timmerman, "a long time" after his alleged experience.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001698
Date of event: 1930
Earliest report of event: 2005?
Delay of report: 7 décennies.
Witness reported via: Told ufologist John Timmerman.
First alleged record by: Ufologist.
First certain record by: Ufology book.
First alleged record type: Ufologist.
First certain record type: Ufology book.
This file created on: September 18, 2018
This file last updated on: September 18, 2018
Country of event: USA
State/Department: Oregon
Type of location:
Lighting conditions: Not reported.
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: Not reported.
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages: Not reported. Child.
Witnesses types: Not reported. Child.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 2
Type of entities: Humanoid or human
Entities height: Small
Entities outfit type: Outfit.
Entities outfit color: Not reported. Shining.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Not reported. Little men.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Came out of UFO, pointed instrument to witness who lost consciousness.
Entities/witness interactions: Pointed instrument to witness who lost consciousness.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, went.
Witness(es) feelings: Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Extraterrestrial visitors or invention.
Explanation certainty: High.


[Ref. js1:] JEAN SIDER:

The author indicates that in 1930 at an unknown date, in the daytime, in Vernonia, Oregon, USA, there was a close encounter of the third or fourth kind.

He indicates that it was long after his observation that the witness who was only a young boy at the time of the facts had agreed to tell a few snippets to an investigator.

He says the child saw a hovercraft-like object near the ground. A ladder spread to the ground and two little men in shining one-piece outfits came out. One of them pointed an instrument towards the child; which caused him to lose consciousness.

He comments that the case is virtually identical to that of 1893 in Australia cited in a previous chapter of his book, and he suggests that it was a CE4.

He adds that Michael Swords has a reputation as a rigorous researcher well established among his American peers.

Jean Sider also adds that there are similarities with the case of Valensole in France in July 1965.


1930. Day.


A child saw a disc shaped object, later thought to be like a hovercraft, come close to the ground. A ladder descended and two small beings in shiny suits emerged. One of them pointed something like a wand at the child, who lost consciousness.

Swords 2005 p 132 citing John Timmerman

Points to consider:

Vernonia is a US municipality located in Columbia County, Oregon. At the 2010 census, its population was 2151 inhabitants.

John P. Timmerman, deceased in 2015, mentionned as earliest source, was a UFO investigator who worked with Dr. J. Allen Henek, and was famous for his 1,200 taped interviews of firsthand UFO witnesses which eventually ended up being published by Professor Michael D. Swords as the book "Grass-Roots UFOs".

The comment by Jean Sider that Michael Swords has a reputation of a rigorous researcher among his peers does not make much sense here; what is at stake is not the credibility of a third-hand source, but that of the witness. And we know nothing about him, amd almost nothing about his alleged encounter.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe September 18, 2018 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Missing primary source John Timmerman. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufology Severe September 18, 2018 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Single witness case with apparently anonymous witness. Help needed. Opened.
3 Ufology Severe September 18, 2018 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Poor information: no hour, no description of location, no duration, no size, almost no description. Help needed. Opened.


Extraterrestrial visitors or invention.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:


Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross September 18, 2018 Creation, [js1], [pr1].
1.0 Patrick Gross September 18, 2018 First published.

Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict

 Feedback  |  Top  |  Back  |  Forward  |  Map  |  List |  Home
This page was last updated on September 18, 2018.