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ALSACAT is my comprehensive catalog of UFO sighting reports in Alsace, the region is the North-East of France, whether they are "explained" or "unexplained".

The ALSACAT catalog is made of case files with a case number, summary, quantitative information (date, location, number of witnesses...), classifications, all sources mentioning the case with their references, a discussion of the case in order to evaluate its causes, and a history of the changes made to the file. A general index and thematic sub-catalogs give access to these Alsatian case files.

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Case of Saverne, on February 11, 2015:

Case number:

ALSACAT-2015-02-11-SAVERNE-1

Summary:

Luce, housewife in Saverne in the Bas-Rhin, filed her testimony and photograph with the ufology forum "Les Mystères des OVNIS" on February 15, 2015.

She told that on February 11, 2015, at 02:03 p.m., under a clear and sunny sky, she was called to the balcony by her husband who was there saying there were two strange flying objects in the sky.

She arrived and seeing the things, she first took a picture, visible below in this case file.

The objects were on her right, and then went up in the sky, coming closer then going away silently. They reflected the sun, they were "brilliant, in triangle", and very far away.

The objects were located high in the sky, approximately above the Saverne Pass.

She thought she missed them on the camera when she tried to use the zoom to take another picture, but she had actually used the zoom with the photo she communicated.

She indicates that there was no wind, or very little wind. She stayed there for a minute, then went back inside because there was too much sun and her husband and her did not see the things anymore.

She asked if they could have been drones, and believes that they were not conventional planes because those "leave a white trail behind them," and she recognizes them as such because they often pass by the balcony, and what she saw did not look like it.

She specified that there is a military base close to their home, in Lorraine, the military zone of the Phalsbourg-Bourscheid air base, and thinks military planes may be a possible explanation.

After exchanges with forum members, she agreed that the best explanation is the one proposed by one member: birds, actually recognizable in an enlargement performed by forum member:

Scan.

Data:

Temporal data:

Date: February 11, 2015
Time: 02:03 p.m.
Duration: 1 minute.
First known report date: February 15, 2015
Reporting delay: 4 days.

Geographical data:

Department: Haut-Rhin
City: Saverne
Place: From balcony in town, UFO in the sky.
Latitude: 48.739
Longitude: 7.365
Uncertainty radius: 1.5 km

Witnesses data:

Number of alleged witnesses: 2
Number of known witnesses: 1
Number of named witnesses: 0
Witness(es) ages: 29 ,adult.
Witness(es) types: Husband an wife.

Ufology data:

Reporting channel: By the web to the ufology forum "Les MystèRes des OVNIS".
Type of location: From balcony in town, UFO in the sky.
Visibility conditions: Day, sunny, clear sky.
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: No
Entities: No
Photographs: Yes.
Sketch(s) by witness(es): No.
Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): No.
Witness(es) feelings: Puzzled.
Witnesses interpretation: Drones or unconventional planes.

Classifications:

Hynek: DD
ALSACAT: Birds.

Sources:

[Ref. myo1:] "LES MYSTERES DES OVNIS" WEB FORUM:

LuceG
Sympathetic participation
Female Age: 29
Number of message: 12
Registered on: 02/15/2015
Localization: Alsace - 67
Job: Housewife
Hobbies: Photography

Subject: 2015: on 07/02 at 02:03 p.m. - Strange light in the sky - Ufos Saverne - Bas-Rhin (dep.67) Sun 15 Feb 2015, 01:23 p.m.

Ufo observation 2015: on 02/11 at 02:03 p.m. - Strange light in the sky - Saverne - Bas-Rhin (dep.67)

Firstname or pseudo : Luce
City: Saverne
Departement: Bas-Rhin (dep.67)
Region: Alsace launch a call for witness: http://www.lalsace.fr
Country: France
Date: 02/11/2015
Hour of the beginning of the observation: 02:03 p.m.
Durée de l'observation: 1 minute

Weather conditions: Clear sky, sunny
Numberof witnesses: 2
Type if phenomenon: Srange light in the sky
Official report: No

Complete report of the observation:

My husband was on the balcony, he called me, saying their was two strange flying objects in the sky, first above the rake right on the picture, and then they webt up in the sky , getting closer and far away silently. I indeed did not hear any noise, I first took a picture when arriving to be sure to have the objects in the photo, without stressing me.

The flying objects reflect the sun, so they are are "bright, in triangle shape", they are very far on the photo and I did not find them when zooming in, shame! So I have just one photo, the two objects in the blue sky. That day there was no wind, or very little. I stayed 1 minute, then I went back inside, because too much sun, and I could not see anything, my husband also lost them from sight.

The objects are located high in the sky, above the Saverne Pass approximately. I do not know if it would not be drones? Anyway the classic planes leave a white trail behind them, and I distinguish them well, they often go pass the balcony. Here it does not look like it. We have a military base close to home, it is located in Lorraine, this also my be a military aircraft track.

If you can enlighten me, I am eager for an explanation to these two bright objects.

Precise description: Triangle, luminous
Color:
Size of the phenomenon:
Behavior: Slow speed, getting closer and away.
Trajectory: West - West specified
Specific noise: No
Specific odor: No
Direction of the object relative to the wind: i don't know
Presence od installations: Military area Air Force base of Phalsbourg-Bourscheid,
Similar photo: None
Table: triangle A4

Attachments (photos, vidéos, carte):

Original picture

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Enhanced photo on the objects.

Scan.

Field investigation requested: to be specified

Investigator in charge of the file:

Keywords : Ufo, Ufology, Testimonies, Alsace launch a call for witness: http://www.lalsace.fr, France, 02:03 p.m., 11, ,

I hereby certify the accuracy of information and the authenticity of the documents supplied. I do not know of to identify this phenomenon thank you in advance for your answers. To be specified

Regards Luce

Loreline
Investigation coordinator
Female Age: 65
Number of messages: 3889
Registered on: 08/10/2012
Localization: BRITANNY
Job: none
Hobbies: discover and undertand

Subject: 2015: on 07/02 at 02:03 p.m. - Strange light in the sky - Ufos Saverne - Bas-Rhin (dep.67) Sun 15 Feb 2015, 04:00 p.m.

Hello Luce

Thank you for sharing your observation, but we do not have access to your photos.. I you put a link for you about how to do it in your next intervention:

http://www.forum-ovni-ufologie.com/t19748-tutoriel-video-uploader-et-inserer-des-images-sur-le-forum#193697

In waiting to reading you

Best regards

LuceG
Sympathetic participation
Female Age: 29
Number of message: 12
Registered on: 02/15/2015
Localization: Alsace - 67
Job: Housewife
Hobbies: Photography

Subject: 2015: on 07/02 at 02:03 p.m. - Strange light in the sky - Ufos Saverne - Bas-Rhin (dep.67) Sun 15 Feb, 05:12 p.m.

Hello, i'll attempt to try again :

The original photo.

Scan.

The enhancement.

Scan.

Normaly it should be ok..

Regards.

Luce

Loreline
Investigation coordinator
Female Age: 65
Number of messages: 3889
Registered on: 08/10/2012
Localization: BRITANNY
Job: none
Hobbies: discover and undertand

Subject: 2015: on 07/02 at 02:03 p.m. - Strange light in the sky - Ufos Saverne - Bas-Rhin (dep.67) Sun 15 Feb, 05:36 p.m.

Thank you Luce

I put them into the form

Best regards

wacapou
Observations analyst
Male Age: 67
Number of messages: 3021
Registered on: 08/07/2012
Localization: Nantes
Job: retired
Hobbies: informatics

Subject: 2015: on 07/02 at 02:03 p.m. - Strange light in the sky - Ufos Saverne - Bas-Rhin (dep.67) Sun 15 Feb, 07:46 p.m.

Good evening LuceG

It might be interesting to have the original photograph that is certainly of much better definition than the inserted picture on the forum. On the other hand the original file has an associated EXIF usually containing the conditions of shooting.

To try to go a little further I send you a PM with email address to send your picture.

Good evening.

wacapou
Observations analyst
Male Age: 67
Number of messages: 3021
Registered on: 08/07/2012
Localization: Nantes
Job: retired
Hobbies: informatics

Subject: 2015: on 07/02 at 02:03 p.m. - Strange light in the sky - Ufos Saverne - Bas-Rhin (dep.67) Mon 16 Feb 2015, 01:06 p.m.

Hello LuceG

Thanks for your sending of the original photo.

I failed to do better than you to get something clear.

Scan.

Shooting conditions :

Scan.

@LuceG wrote:

... they are very far away on the picture and i did not find them by zooming in ...

The EXIF indicates that the zoom was used in the shootig : focal = 34,49 mm Shooting camera : Canon Powershot SX260 HS
Cell format : BSI CMOS 12 Mpx, 1/2,3"
Angle of horizontal field : ~ 10°
Focaö equivalence 24 x 36 ~ 200 mm

The photographed object must have been very far :

Estimation of real size :

~ 60 cm at 1000 m
~ 120 cm at 2000 m

By observing well the enlargement the most "trivial" explanation I can find is that you observe and photographed two birds in flight.

Now I do not hold the truth ...

Good afternoon.

LuceG
Sympathetic participation
Female Age: 29
Number of message: 12
Registered on: 02/15/2015
Localization: Alsace - 67
Job: Housewife
Hobbies: Photography

Subject: 2015: on 07/02 at 02:03 p.m. - Strange light in the sky - Ufos Saverne - Bas-Rhin (dep.67) Tue 17 Feb 2015, 10:58

Hellor,

Certainly I zoomd in a bit in the direction that my husband indicatd to me, hoping to get them from closer, but it's true that it can be anything, kites, drones? Birds are also possible

I even think that birds, since they "hovered silently" is the best explanation to date.

Thank you anyway !

Discussion:

Map.

On the enlarged image, I clearly see the bodies and wings of the two birds.

Evaluation:

Birds.

Sources references:

* = Source is available to me.
? = Source I am told about but could not get so far. Help needed.

File history:

Authoring:

Main author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history:

Version: Create/changed by: Date: Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross June 19, 2015 Creation, [myo1].
1.0 Patrick Gross June 19, 2015 First published.

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