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October 8, 1954, La Croix-Saint-Ouen, Oise:

Reference for this case: 8-Oct-54-La-Croix-Saint-Ouen.
Please cite this reference in any correspondence with me regarding this case.


A short message of the National Gendarmerie made was about two observations in 1954 in La Croix-Saint-Ouen, in the Oise. The second, the day after the first, took place on October 8, 1954, at 11:30 p.m.:

A "machine" had been seen during a few seconds at the vertical of the power station of La Croix-Saint-Ouen, moving from East to West. It is said that the craft was in the shape of a circle, luminous, and that it had been seen by four people, whose names were withdrawn from the gendarmerie document as it was made public in 2014.

A German UFO database of the web was til then the only source, with a doubled record giving only the city, the date and the hour, and no source.




Origin: Gendarmerie Oise
Source: Message
Value: C/3
Date: 10/11/1954

On October 7, 1954, at 9 o'clock [a.m.] a machine was seen at the vertical of the Bell-tower of la Croix St. Ouen, direction of move south-east/north-east, at an altitude of 400 meters approximately. The duration of observation was one minute. The machine was of oval form, very brilliant "aluminum" color. 2 people saw it: Miss [-] and Mr. [-] of la Croix St. Ouen.

On October 8, 1954, at 11:30 p.m., a machine was seen at the vertical of the electric Center of la Croix St. Ouen, direction of move east/west. The duration of the observation was of a few seconds. The machine was in the shape of a circle, luminous. 4 people saw it: MM [ - ], [ - ], [ - ], and [ ].

Note: this document was made public by the GEIPAN - see [gei1] below.


LACROIX-SAINT-OUEN (60) 10/08/1954
Observed on: 10/08/1954
Region: Picardie
Department: Oise
Class: C
Summary: Observation of a luminous machine in the shape of circle in the sky. The phenomenon moves E-W: not enough information.

On October 8, 1954, at 11:30 p.m. four witnesses observe a luminous machine in the shape of circle in the sky. The phenomenon moves E-W. The observation lasts a few seconds.

This observation is the subject of a brief information sheet by the national gendarmerie.

This type of observation can have various origins (sun reflection on a plane, balloon, bolide...). The GEIPAN classifies this case C for lack of information.

Report: None.

Details of the testimony
Date of the observation 10/08/1954
Document number
Age Adult (more than 18)
Profession Not-specified
Sexe Masculin
Reaction Active curiosity
Credibility Normal credibility
Environment Country
Weather conditions Not-specified
Hour of the observation Dawn
Reference frame Sky or clouds
Distance between phenomenon and witness Not-specified
Start of the observation Start of observation by witness
End of the observation End of observation by phenomenon
Angle of the site Not-specified
Direction d'observation Est
Heading West
Trajectory Not-specified
Nature of the observation Craft
Characteristic of the observation Unique
Global shape Round, circular, ball
Color Not-specified
Apparent size Not-specified
Apparent speed Not-specified
Noise Not-specified
Effect on the environment Not-specified
Number 1

[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded the case 2 times instead of one:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19541008 08.10.1954 Croix St. Ouen France 11.30 pm
19541008 08.10.1954 Lacroix st Ouen France 11.30 pm NL



Insufficient information.

One big issue here is about the "circle". By definition a circle is not a disk, a luminous circle should mean:

and not:

The the work "circle" is sometimes used instead of "disc", and this may be the case here; we just do not know. Sad, because a meteor for example can look like a luminous "disc", but cannot look like a luminous "circle".


(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

La Croix-Saint-Ouen, Lacroix Saint-Ouen, Oise, gendarmes, multiple, circle, duration, night, luminous, official


[----] indicates sources that are not yet available to me.

Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
1.0 Patrick Gross December 19, 2016 First published.

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