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November 5, 1954, Molliens-Vidame, Somme:

Reference for this case: 5-Nov-54-Molliens-Vidame.
Please cite this reference in any correspondence with me regarding this case.


In the 1970s, before taking the lead of the official French ufology group GEPAN, Claude Poher had compiled a list of observations, in summary form, either coming from official sources or having official witnesses.

In this list, he noted an observation for November 5, 1954, at 11:15 p.m. in Molliens-Vidame, in the Somme department.

There would have been two official witnesses with one whose name was known, an official investigation would have been conducted, the upper sky was overcast, a single object had been seen for 1 to 19 minutes.

The object had a shape of the type "oval, egg, ovoid", an angular dimension of 30 minutes of arc, it was luminous or fluorescent, slow or very slow, immobile or in a straight line with stops, there was no sound heard coming from the object.



In 1968-1969, before the official GEPAN ufology effort started, its future head Dr Claude Poher was a member of the unofficial GEPA ufology group, and gathered a computer coded listing of more than 700 UFO reports on which multiple factors statistical computation could be run. In the file were a number of 1954 French UFO reports, among those this one.

For readability, a decoded interpretation of the data is provided here under the original 80 character encoded string. Decoding was done according to the original indications, the code number and its generic meaning is given. Please not that the generic meaning of each code is a predefined category, not the real specific details of the case. For example, if the main witness' age was 33, the coding would result in a number "3" which corresponds to a category "Adult from 21 to 59 years."

Original code:0643550511195423151JA2104013400014AA300020C0217000000000000000000000000000000000
Location:Molliens-Vidame (Somme) - France
Case number:0643
Source code:55
Nature of the source:Reports from official French sources: Police, Gendarmerie, Army, Pilots
Type of Time:1 = local time
Number of witnesses:2 = 2
Main witness named:1 = name(s) indicated
Main witness age:0 = no indication
Main witness occupation:4 = army, police, fireman, constable
Official investigation:1 = an official investigation was made
Weather:3 = sky covered at high altitude
Duration:4 = from 1 to 19 minutes
Minimal distance witness - phenomenon:0 = no indication
Method of observation:0 = no indication
Number of "objects" observed simultaneously:01 = 1
Shape of the "object" (terminology of witness(es)):4 = oval, egg, ovoïd, "like a rugby ball"
Dimensions of the phenomenon:AA = angular size, 30 = 30 arc minutes
Color of the observed phenomenon:00 = no indication
Luminosity of the phenomenon:2 = luminous, fluorescent
Lights or projectors on the phenomenon:0 = no indication
Moving speed of the phenomenon:C = "slow" or "very slow"
Acceleration of the phenomenon:0 = no indication
Trajectory of the phenomenon:2 = motionless or straight line with stops
Sounds perceived during observation:1 = no noise, total silence, object noiseless
Maximum angular height of observation (horizon = 0°):7 = altitude is indicated
Nature of the landing place:0 = no indicatio
Number of contact points with ground:0 = no indication
Traces of landing:0 = no indication
Observation of "occupants":0 = no indication
Height of the occupants observed:00 = no indication
Garment of the occupants:00 = no indication
Garment:0 = no indication
General behavior of "occupants":0 = no indication
Interaction of "occupants" with witness:0 = no indication
Head, hair:0 = no indication
Voice, breathing, chin:0 = no indication
Skin:0 = no indication
Eyes:0 = no indication
Mouth:0 = no indication
Various details:0 = no indication
Thermal effects:0 = no indication
Luminous effects:0 = no indication
Magnetic effect (or electromagnetic):0 = no indication
Odor perceived by witness:0 = no indication
Physiological effects on the witness(es):0 = no indication
Psychological effect on the witness(es):0 = no indication
Effects on animals:0 = no indication
Other effects reported:0 = no indication
Nebulosity:0 = no indication
Oscillations, emission of matter:0 = no indication
Spin, formation flight:0 = no indication
Immediate disappearance:0 = no indication
Halo surrounding the phenomenon:0 = no indication
Interaction witness / phenomenon (complement to the other rubrics):0 = no indication
Drawing or photo:0 = no indication
Structural details observed:0 = no indication

[Ref. lcn1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan indicates in his database that in the Somme in Molliens Dreuil on November 5, 1954 at 23:15 hours, "at the location Vidame two witnesses certainly gendarmes observed during several minutes an ovoid object having a size of thirty minutes of arc. It was luminous and moved very slowly, making stops."

The source is noted: "Les Universons by Poher Claude **".

[Ref. wia1:] WIKIPEDIA:

Local events: November 5, 1954, a U.F.O was observed in Molliens-Vidame.

The source is noted as being my website: "ovni - Les OVNIS vus de près: France 1954, 5 novembre, Molliens-Vidame, Somme".

[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19541105 05.11.1954 Molliens France 23.15



Insufficient information.

In 1972, the commune of Molliens-Vidame was joined to Dreuil-lès-Molliens to become Molliens-Dreuil.

The angular dimension of 30 minutes of arc would correspond for an object at 10 meters if a width of 8 cm; or to an object at 100 meters of a width of 80 cm.

This angular size also corresponds to the angular size of the Moon.

It turns out that the Moon was in the visible sky in this place and on that date and time, at the 227° azimuth and the elevation of 24°. The Moon is thus a possible explanation, but the data is too meager to say more than this.


(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

Molliens-Vidame, Molliens-Dreuil, Somme, official, multiple, oval, luminous, slow, silent


[----] indicates sources that are not yet available to me.

Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross March 20, 2005 First published.
1.0 Patrick Gross March 4, 2009 Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [lcn1], [wia1].
1.1 Patrick Gross February 2, 2017 Addition [ubk1].
1.2 Patrick Gross November 6, 2019 Addition of the Summary. Explanations changed, were "Not looked for yet."

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