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October 14, 1954, Thieulloy-la-Ville, Somme:

Reference for this case: 14-Oct-54-Thieulloy.
Please cite this reference in any correspondence with me regarding this case.

Summary:

In 1969, ufologist Jacques Vallée indicated that from his "personal" sources, on October 14, 1954, at 08:10 p.m., on the road connecting Thieulloy-la-Ville to Beauvais, Mr. Covemacker saw an object that flew over his car, and at the same time, the headlights went out.

The object continued to the north, apparently following a train.

There will be nothing more on the matter, except that in 1979, the "skeptical" ufologists Gérard Barthel and Jacques Brucker, who give the time as 08:20 p.m., announced they made an investigation, which comes down to announcing that the witness refused to give them information on his observation.

Reports:

[Ref. jve5:] JACQUES VALLEE:

347 -001.93041 49.74930 14 10 1954 20 10 1 THIEULOY LA VILLE F 011133 E

[Ref. jve1:] JACQUES VALLEE:

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260) October 14, 1954, 08:10 p.m., Thieulloy-la-Ville (France):

On the road between Thieulloy-la-Ville and Beauvais, Mr. Covemacker saw an object fly over his car as the headlights died. It went on toward the north, seemingly following a train. (personal).

[Ref. bbr1:] GERARD BARTHEL AND JACQUES BRUCKER:

The two authors note this case of October 14, 1954:

"Thieulloy-la-Ville - 80 - at about 08:00 p.m.: investigation. The witness refused to give us information on his sighting."

[Ref. fru1:] MICHEL FIGUET ET JEAN-LOUIS RUCHON:

These two authors indicate that on October 14, 1954 at 08:10 p.m., in Thieulloy la Ville in the department of the Somme, on the road connecting Thieulloy-la-City to Beauvais, Mr. covemacker saw an object which flew over his/her car. At the same time, the headlights of his/her vehicle died out. The object then moved towards north, seeming to be following a train.

The authors indicate that the source is case 260 of the Vallée catalogue.

[Ref. mft3:] MICHEL FIGUET:

Nr of the J. C. Fumoux list Nr of Francat list Localization Date Class Credibility Sources Number of W
087 203 Thieulloy-la-Ville 14/10 CE0 NI P C.V. 2-p 165 1 T

[Ref. mft1:] MICHEL FIGUET:

CASE Nr CLASSIFICATION DATE HOUR PLACE ZIP CODE CREDIBILITY SOURCE
CE0 14 10 1954 20.10 Thieulloy-la-Ville 80290 D3 RS-NI, OVNI p. 165

[Ref. cnu1:] CNEGU:

14. 10. 1954
20.10
80
Thieulloy la ville

[Ref. jsr1:] JEAN SIDER:

Jean Sider refers to Michel Figuet and indicates that on October 14, at 08:10 P.M., in Thieulloy-the-City in the Somme, Mr. Covemacker was driving his car towards Beauvais, when suddenly an object appeared and flew over his car whose headlights immediately died out.

[Ref. lhh1:] LARRY HATCH - "*U* COMPUTER DATABASE":

4126: 1954/10/14 20:10 1 1:55:40 E 49:45:00 N 3333 WEU FRN OIS 5:8

THIEULOY-la-VILLE>>BEAUVAIS,FR:OBJ FLIES OVR CAR:LITES FAIL:FOLLOWS TRAIN>>N

Ref# 30 FIGEUT[sic]&RUCHON: OVNI: Le 1er Dossier Page No. 165 : FARMLANDS

[Ref. goe1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

Godelieve van Overmeire indicates that in 1954, on October 14, in France, in Thieulloy la Ville, "on the road towards Beauvais Mr. Covemacker saw at 20:10, an object which flew over his car. At the same time the headlights died out. The object continued towards the north, apparently following a train."

The source is noted "Jacques Vallée: 'Chronique des apparitions ET' - DENOEL 1972 - J'AI LU COLL. - p. 281".

[Ref. jbu1:] JEROME BEAU:

Thursday, October 14, 1954

20:10 On the road connecting Thieulloy-la-Ville (France) to Beauvais, Mr. Covemacker see 1 object flying over its car. At the same time, his headlights die out. The object continues towards the north, seeming to follow 1 train.

[Ref. cnu1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan indicates in his database that in the Somme in Thieulloy la Ville on October 14, 1954 at 20:10 hours, "On the road connecting Thieulloy-the-City to Beauvais, the witness sees an object which flies over his car; at the same time, the headlights of his vehicle die out. The object would then move towards the north, seeming to follow a train."

The source is noted: "Ovni, Premier dossier complet... by Figuet M./ Ruchon J.L. ** Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979".

[Ref. uda1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 14 October 1954 at 20:10 in Thieulloy-la-Ville, France, "Object flew over a car as the headlights died." "On the road between Thieulloy-la-Ville and Beauvais, Mr. Covemacker saw an object fly over his car as the headlights died. It went on toward the north, seemingly following a train."

The website adds: "An object was observed. Electromagnetic effects were noted. One object, about 40 feet across, was observed by one male witness on a road for two minutes (Covemacker)."

The sources are indicated as Poher, Claude, Etudes Statistiques Portant sur 1000 Temoignag, Author, undated; Bowen, Charles, The Humanoids: FSR Special Edition No. 1, FSR, London, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Computerized Catalog (N = 3073); Vallee, Jacques, Challenge to Science: The UFO Enigma, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Preliminary Catalog (N = 500), (in JVallee01); Vallee, Jacques, A Century of Landings (N = 923), (in JVallee04), Chicago, 1969; Schoenherr, Luis, Computerized Catalog (N = 3173); Falla, Geoffrey, Vehicle Interference Project, BUFORA, London, 1979; Hatch, Larry, *U* computer database, Author, Redwood City, 2002.

[Ref. djn2:] DONALD JONHSON:

Donald Johnson indicates that on October 14, 1954, at 8:10 p.m. on the road between Thieulloy-la-Ville and Beauvais, Somme, Mr. Covemacker saw an object fly over his car as the headlights died. It went on toward the north, seemingly following a train.

The sources are indicated as Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, case # 259.

[Ref. nip1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":

*Oct. 14, 1954 - At 8:10 p.m. on the road between Thieulloy-la-Ville and Beauvais, Somme, France Mr. Covemacker saw an object fly over his car as the headlights died. It went on toward the north, seemingly following a train. (Source: Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, case # 259).

[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded this case 4 times:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19541014 14.10.1954 Beauvais Thieulloy France CE II
19541014 14.10.1954 Beauvaisv Thieulloy France CE II
19541014 14.10.1954 Thieulloy Ville France CE II
19541014 14.10.1954 Thieulloy Ville France CE II

[Ref. prn2:] PETER ROGERSON - "INTCAT":

October 14 1954. 2010hrs.

THIEULLOY-LA VILLE (SOMME : FRANCE)

On the road between Thieulloy and Beauvaos, Mr Covemacker saw an object fly over his car as the headlights died. It went towards the north, seemingly following a train

Vallee Case 260

Evaluation - That meteor again?

Explanations:

Map.

An ill-documented case on which nothing can be decided.

Keywords:

(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

Thieulloy-la-Ville, Somme, road, Beauvais, Covemacker, object, car, headlights, failure, stop, train, railway

Sources:

[----] indicates sources that are not yet available to me.

Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross April 20, 2003 First published.
1.0 Patrick Gross April 8, 2009 Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [goe1], [jbu1], [uda1].
1.1 Patrick Gross February 28, 2010 Addition [djn2].
1.2 Patrick Gross June 29, 2010 Addition [jve5].
1.3 Patrick Gross November 15. 2014 Addition [nip1].
1.4 Patrick Gross February 27, 2017 Addition [ubk1].
1.5 Patrick Gross July 9, 2019 Addition [mft3], [mft1], [cnu1], [lhh1], [prn2], Summary. Explanations changed, were "Not looked for yet."

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