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Patrick Saunders

(Patrick SAUNDERS, Patrick H. SAUNDERS).

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Please, before asking any question or sending any comment or criticism, read this.


I was able to verify outside ufology sources Patrick H. Saunders married in 1951 in Tucson, Arizona, and his military assignments would take them to Roswell, N.M.

I was unable to find any corroboration of the cited medals he is said to be recipients of.


There was no affidavit by Patrick Saunders.

Interviews and public statements:

There was no public statement by Patrick Saunders.

Investigators notes and comments:

Kevin Randle:

Kevin Randle wrote that Patrick Saunders was the base adjutant in 1947, and the recovery operation could not have gone forward without his knowledge because he would have been responsible for all the paperwork that would have been generated, he would have had to know.

Randle says that when he first contacted Saunders, Saunders made jokes about little green men and said that he didn't really know anything of importance. He talked of other matters and Randle thought there would be nothing to learn from him about Roswell. But Saunders bought copies of both "The UFO Crash at Roswell" and "The Truth about the UFO Crash at Roswell", and according to family and friends, he bought lots of copies and sent them out.

Randle notes that in the front of some of the copies, on the flyleaf, Saunders wrote, "This is the truth and I still haven't told anybody anything!" and signed his name.

Randle notes that there was no reason for Saunders to have done this: it was not as if he was having a laugh by 'pulling my chain'", as Saunders had no reason to suspect that Randle would even learn that he had done this.

Saunders died about 18 months before Randle learned about the statements in the books. Randles says he since talked to his widow and got in touch with his daughter. Saunders had planned to leave a video report on what he knew, but died before he made it.

Randle concludes:

We are left with the statements that he wrote in the front of the Roswell books. Statements that should carry real weight because of who he was and the circumstances under which the statements were made.


Randle says Patrick Saunders was the Roswell Army Air Field adjutant in July 1947, and, retired Colonel, died in November 1995, after a fall that put him into the hospital. Saunders was born in Alabama in 1916 and died 76 years later in 1995 in Florida. He attended the University of Florida and was graduated from the University of Nebraska at Omaha and the Air War College. During WW II he flew 37 combat missions and was awarded the Legion of Merit, the Silver Star, a Bronze Star with Oak Leaf Cluster, the Distinguished Flying Cross and the Air Medal with three Oak Leaf Clusters.

Randle says that before dying he left a legacy of information about his role in the retrieval and cover up: and as the adjutant and a member of Colonel William Blanchard's primary staff, Saunders must have been involved, and that according to the information he ahs, he was "not only in on it, he played a major part in it."

Randle says he first talked to Saunders in June 1989, as he was beginning his research into the Roswell case. Saunders just got out of the hospital after a heart attack, and Randle would waited several weeks before calling him if he had known this.

When Randle asked his by telephone conversation about the possibility of the UFO crash, he said that he knew nothing about the little green bodies and said that the whole thing was a big joke. He did confirm that he had been the 509th adjutant for only a few weeks when the events of July 1947 transpired.

Randle asked if he could remember any of the rumors and which of those might have some truth to them, and he siply replied "I can't specify anything." Randle thought Saunders was not a witness to the story, or rather, he led Randle to believe this at the time, which probably saved him from dozens of telephone calls from around the world wanting to know what the truth was.

But after "UFO Crash at Roswell" and "The Truth about the UFO Crash at Roswell" were published, Randle learned that Saunders bought copies, even lots of copies because, according to what he wrote on the first page of "The Truth about the UFO Crash at Roswell", he believed that was the truth.

He wrote on the flyleaf on the book which was labeled, "Damage Control," in his own handwriting, "Here's the truth and I still haven't told anybody anything! Pat" Randle presumes this comment refers to that specific page.

The page was about files and personal records that were altered, along with assignments and various codings and code words. The page told that changing serial numbers ensured that those searching later would not be able to locate those who were involved in the recovery. Individuals were brought into Roswell from Alamogordo, Albuquerque and Los Alamos. The MP s were a special unit constructed of military police elements from Kirtland, Alamogordo, and Roswell. If the men did not know one another or were separated after the event, they would be unable to compare notes and that would make the secret easier to keep.

Randle says that on the flyleaf to "UFO Crash at Roswell", which he sent on to his daughter, he had written, "You were there! Love, Dad."

Randle descripes the page where this was written; it is about senior counterintelligence man Rickett and the Provost Marshal walking the perimeter of the debris field and examining the scattered wreckage there, with a description of the pieces, and th CIC agent telling Rickett who agreed, that "You and I were never out here", "You and I never saw this. You don’t see any military people or military vehicles out here either."

Randle comments that these handwriten notes are opened to interpretation and will probably be argued against.

He adds that according to a letter he received from one of Saunders' children, Saunders had "At one point... bragged to me about how well he had covered the 'paper trail' associated with the clean up!"

Randle says that in the months before he died, Saunders confided in a number of close and life long friends that suddenly, the officers of the 509th Bomb Group were confronted with a technology greater than that of Earth. The occupants of the flying saucers had control of the sky, and the Air Force was powerless against them though they had just seen the power of control of the skyas a key factors that defeated the enemies in WWII.

Saunders also told people that military officials had no idea about what the intentions of the flying saucers occupnats might be. Their technology was more advanced than that of the United States and top military leaders did not know if the alien beings were a threat so the government was reluctant to release anything about them. Saunders warned those he talked with to be careful, as he was aware of the threats that had been made and he believed that those making them were serious.

Randle says one of the daughters of Saucers wrote, "...he asked me a lot of questions probably to see if, in fact, I had read (UFO Crash at Roswell) carefully. Then he wanted me to understand that he felt the threats to people who ‘talked’ were very real..."

Randle notes that when the Air Force was made their Roswell investigation, they did not interview Saunders, though they certainly had the chance as he was not all that old, only 76, and while his heart might have been weakened, he certainly had the strength to sit through an interview with another Air Force officer.

Randle notes that Saunders only talked to close friends and family only after the story had been told by so many others, so that it cannot be said he was seeking fame or fortune by creating a tale to put himself in the limelight.

Randle says that when Saunders prepared for his own funeral, he added a note to his list of accomplishments mentioning his role in Roswell.

Note: please note this is a summary of Kevin Randle's report, and that the report includes reproduction of the handwritten notes mentioned in it. Refer to the source below. On Kevin Randle's blog, there are also comments by reader and answers by Randle that I do not reproduce here.


Tim Printy:

Tim Printy says that "Kevin Randle's preoccupation with information produced by people who die reaches a peak when it comes to a man named Patrick Saunders."

He says Saunders was the 509th adjutant for a short period of time in July 1947 and could possibly know about the whole event. When asked about Roswell, Saunders stated he knew nothing about the little green bodies and said that the whole thing was a big joke. Kevin Randle was perplexed and appeared to give up on Saunders until he died in 1995, and now "we discover that Saunders wrote in the flyleaf of at least one copy of the book, The Truth about the UFO Crash at Roswell":

"Here’s the truth and I still haven't told anybody anything" (Randle Randle 203). Then Randle states that he told all his close friends all about it in the months before he died.

Printy says that if this is true, why didn't Saunders call Randle up and tell him the "whole truth"? Randle supposedly had this copy of the book and Printy originally felt that this was a figment of his imagination since he did not publish a copy of this note, but Randle "eventually would publish an image of this note."

Printy says "I was surprised and it is signed "Pat" (Randle "The Roswell Disconnect")."

Randle contemplates that Saunders may have been pulling his leg but then dismisses it. Nobody knows the context of the "message" and Printy felt, at one point, that it could have been a forgery, and that the document should be verified as coming from Saunders because there have been plenty of forgeries and lies told in the Roswell story.

According to Randle, Saunders was going to make a videotape of his story before he died but never got around to it. Randle states Saunders is a key player because, "Patrick Saunders was the base adjutant in 1947. The recovery operation couldn't have gone forward without his knowledge because he would have been responsible for all the paperwork that would have been generated. He would have had to know" (Randle "The Roswell Disconnect").

Printy comments:

What Randle fails to mention is that there was no paperwork found concerning any crash! What is he supposed to be doing? Did he simply generate and then immediately destroy the paperwork? Maybe he was telling everyone not to generate paperwork. Then how come he is never mentioned by any of the other witnesses about being told not to generate reports/paperwork? What was Saunders "need to know" and why would he be involved at all? I see no proof that Saunders was involved except for this fleeting note. Then there is the question of how accurate can this be when many of the principle witnesses in the book have been shown to be lying and much of what was in the book was found to be inaccurate. How can this book be a reflection of what really happened if so much is wrong? The actual purpose of the note appears to have been revealed when more information became available.

Printy says that Randle, in an effort to give Saunders more credibility, presented another book with a note in it from Saunders. This is a copy of UFO Crash at Roswell, which he sent his daughter. The writing on the document states "You were there. Love, Dad" (Randle "The Roswell UFO Crash..."). At the bottom of the page there are various numbers listed. Most of these are page numbers where his name appears in the book. After looking at it, Printy thought he begun to understand what has transpired: "It appears that this is probably Saunders handwriting and the context is that of an old man, who seemed interested in how he will be remembered. I was somewhat confused by the "You" as a note to his daughter, which would mean she was there. I am sure it probably is meant as a joke, and that in light of this one can look at the other note and realize it too was probably a joke.

Printy concludes:

The whole idea of Saunders writing little cryptic notes in books is just plain silly. Had Saunders really engineered all of this and wanted everyone to know, he would have made it clear in a diary/notebook/document to be opened after his death. Instead, we get these little tidbits that are vague and inconclusive. If he were really involved in such a cover-up, why not go through the book and correct all the factual errors so history could preserve what really happened? He then could write on the cover that this is what really happened. Where Randle sees proof of a grand conspiracy, I see nothing more than some humorous comments by an old man to friends and family.

Printy lists works cited in his page:

- Randle, Kevin. The Randle Report: UFOs in the 90s. New York: M. Evans and Company inc., 1997
- "The Roswell Disconnect." The Randle Report. Online. Internet. Available WWW:
- "The Roswell UFO Crash and Patrick Saunders". A different perspective. March 16, 2009. Online. Internet. Available WWW:


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