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But Carey stayed after it [the search of the "archaeologists"], reinterviewing those who had been found and rejected. He talked to Dr. George Agogino, who formally admitted that he had heard the story himself. He knew who had been there. When Carey read him the notes from the conversation with the anonymous source, Agogino said, "That's what he told me." (27) [The sources references are missing.]
Agogino didn't want to identify the archaeologist, because the man had made him promise not to tell. Fear of the government seemed to be the reason. He didn't want to get into trouble. But Agogino did tell, (28) providing a name as well as a corroborating source.
My notes: The above article in full tells many more aspects of the search for the "archaeologists" team that would have been on the "Roswell crash site". I show here the part related to this "witness file".
On February 15, 1990, a man called Kevin Randle and said he was an archaeologist who was on the site of the Roswell crash when it occurred. He did not want to give his name for fear of negative repercussions in his professional life.
He said that he was with archaeologists in a survey north of the Captain Mountains in central New Mexico looking for sign of pre-Columbian occupation and Spanish sites.
As they drove cross-country they came over a rise and saw what he described as looking like a crashed airplane without wings or more like a fat fuselage. He saw no dome, portholes, hatch and no markings.
They approached the craft and he saw three bodies. The closest to him was in the best condition. He said it was small, with a head larger than a human's head, big eyes, a mouth, no sign of a nose. It was wearing a silvery flight suit. One arm was bent at a strange angle as if broken.
Soon, military personal arrived on the site after them. They were all armed with pistols and some also with rifles. An officer ordered everyone away from the craft and told them what they had seen was a matter of national security. He then took the archaeologist names and address and the college they attended. He said that if they talked about this they would lose their grants and find no jobs.
They were then firmly escorted away, taken to the nearest road, a dusty track, and told to drive to the East. They passed an army car parked along the roadside with to armed guards standing next to it.
He said this is all he knew and refused to answer questions. He said he wanted this to be known.
Kevin Randle thought this would remain a quite useless, unverifiable report, but MUFON researcher Thomas Carey thought that there were some chances to locate peple doing archaeology in New Mexico in 1947, and by reviewing archaeological literature, he found one Dr. George Agostino from Portals-Clovis, NM, who said he heard a similar story from a friend years earlier.
When Tom Carey gave him Randle's notes to read, he confirmed that this was the story his friend had told him.
Agogino said this man told the story to several other people over the years, and phone investigation by Carey confirmed this.
Agogino gave a name to Carey and Carey and Randle found the man.
In the Summer of 1994, Randle visited him in his office. The man refused to confirmed and resused to deny anything and asked "do I look old enough to be an archaeologist in 1947?" Randle indicated he was certainly old enough to have been an archeology student in 1947. But as the man refused to say anything, no further development occurred.
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George Allen Agogino died at his home early Monday morning, September 11, 2000, after a three-year battle with cancer. He was 79. He came to Portales in 1963 to lead a summer excavation at the Blackwater Draw archeological site; he stayed to create the Department of Anthropology at Eastern New Mexico University, which he chaired for eleven years. He was the founding director of the Blackwater Draw Museum which he designed and found the resources to build. In 1989 he was selected to be a New Mexico Eminent Scholar by the Governor. He retired as Distinguished Research Professor in 1991.
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Dr. Agogino was fascinated by "the unexplained" and Cryptozoology. He worked with Ivan T. Sanderson and others to lend his expertise in physical anthropology to analyze evidence of what has been called the Yeti, Big Foot, Abominable Snowman, and Sasquatch. Here is the Forward he wrote for Ivan T. Sanderson's book Abominable Snowman in 1951. Here is a 1969 article from Argosy Magazine, “The Minnesota Iceman Story”, followed by an article written by then Argosy Science Editor Ivan T. Sanderson titled: “THE MISSING LINK?”The Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained, of New Jersey, U.S.A., May 1969. pp. 23-31. Over the years, as all of the evidence sent to Agogino appeared to be either fraudulent or of some known species, Agogino came to the conclusion that it was unlikely that any such creature could continue to exist now that most of the land masses of the earth have been explored. Dr. Agogino was featured on the “unexplained mysteries” television program with the negative results from DNA analysis of an ancient finger specimen obtained from a monastery in the Himalayas called the “Pangboche Hand”.
As George Agogino was an archaeology student in the late 1940's and early 1950's in New Mexico and had lifetime connections with many ranchers in New Mexico, he was tapped for information concerning the July 1947 “Roswell UFO incident”. Kevin Randle's book and its updates claim to have received confirmation from George Agogino in regards to the name of the archaeologist doing work near the Plains of San Agustin who reported the incident. George Agogino's daughter Alice recalls that her father had narrowed the mystery archaeologist down to 3 possible candidates, the son of one told him on his deathbed that his father could not reveal information for fear of losing government contracts. Alice Agogino says that her father never had any first hand knowledge that any one of his candidates was indeed the one reported to have been involved with the Roswell incident.
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My comment: the above is an obituary for Dr. Agogino by his daughter. Im one sense, it means that Dr. Agogino did not know the name of the anonymous witness this file is about.
But Kevin Randle did not write that Dr. Agogino knew the name of the anonymous archaeologist this file is about. He wrote that Dr. Agogino "supplied a name and both Carey and Randle were able to figure out who the anonymous archaeologist was", not "supplied the name of the anonymous archaeologist".
What looks fascinating to me is that apparently, Dr. Agogino was in a position so supply not just one name but three names of possible candidates. So, there was a possible misunderstanding here. It is possible that Dr. Agostino told of three possible names to Kevin Randle, and that among these three names, one only was the possible anonymous archaeologist Kevin Randle met. Kevin Randle does not write that this man was a witness of the Roswell case, he said this man refused to confirm and refused to deny this.
So, it seems possible that not just one, but three people, told Dr. Agostino to have been somehow witnesses of something related to the Roswell affair!
It seems to me, from the documents I have, that Kevin Randle did not claim Dr. Agostino was "directly" involved. But maybe others did.
It also appears that Dr. Agogino was interested in "the unexplained" etc. This probably eased his will to talk to Tom Carey about the Roswell affair.
I found out as I created this file in 2017 that Dr. Agogino wrote:
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Some "skeptics" have argued that there was no reason that any archaeology team would scrap the New Mexico desert, or even claimed that there is nothing to be found there for archaeologists. This is totally false. Archaeology literature proves otherwise, and I want to cite just one of the numerous references:
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