In 1997, ufologist Jean Sider told he discovered a case of close encounter of the third kind by a Mr. Piednoir, on November 29, 1954, in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place, Saumur, Maine-et-Loire, narrated in two newspapers, The first, Le Baugeois, in Baugé, for December 3, 1954 on page 4, said that "someone noticed a flying saucer in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place". It was a very bright craft "and the Martian was 1 m 30". The flashlight of the witness went out - what sources copying Jean Sider's information, like Albert Rosales for example, called "a power outage was reported in the area at the same time."
The second newspaper, l'Echo Républicain, in Sablé, for December 11, 1954, on page 2, said that Mr. Piednoir had seen the machine landed in a wheat field, as well as its pilot, a small figure.
In November 2006, a reader of this file native of Saint-Clément-des-Levées, a village near Saint-Martin-de-la-Place, informed me that his grandparents, who operated a farm at a place called L'Oussiere, located about 1.5 km from the object's landing site, told him about "the story" when he was about 8 - he was 5 in 1954. According to them, the witness, well-known, was someone credible.
He indicates that the landing site was near a river named Authion, between the places called "Le Guet de Fresne", community of Saint-Martin, and "Les Pâtures", towards Saint-Clément.
| Case number: | URECAT-000065 |
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| Date of event: | November 29, 1954 |
| Earliest report of event: | 1995 |
| Delay of report: | 41 years |
| Witness reported via: | Not known. |
| First alleged record by: | Ufology magazine. |
| First certain record by: | Ufology catalogue. |
| First alleged record type: | Ufology magazine. |
| First certain record type: | Ufology catalogue. |
| This file created on: | November 11, 2006 |
| This file last updated on: | November 26, 2018 |
| Country of event: | France |
| State/Department: | Maine-et-Loire |
| Type of location: | Wheat field. |
| Lighting conditions: | Not reported. |
| UFO observed: | Yes |
| UFO arrival observed: | No |
| UFO departure observed: | No |
| UFO/Entity Relation: | Certain |
| Witnesses numbers: | 1 |
| Witnesses ages: | Not reported. |
| Witnesses types: | Not reported. Probably farmer. |
| Photograph(s): | No. |
| Witnesses drawing: | No. |
| Witnesses-approved drawing: | No. |
| Number of entities: | 1 |
|---|---|
| Type of entities: | Humanoid |
| Entities height: | 1.30 meters. |
| Entities outfit type: | Not reported. |
| Entities outfit color: | Not reported. |
| Entities skin color: | Not reported. |
| Entities body: | Not reported. |
| Entities head: | Not reported. |
| Entities eyes: | Not reported. |
| Entities mouth: | Not reported. |
| Entities nose: | Not reported. |
| Entities feet: | Not reported. |
| Entities arms: | Not reported. |
| Entities fingers: | Not reported. |
| Entities fingers number: | Not reported. |
| Entities hair: | Not reported. |
| Entities voice: | Not reported. |
| Entities actions: | Was near UFO. |
| Entities/witness interactions: | None. |
| Witness(es) reactions: | Observed, went. |
| Witness(es) feelings: | Not reported. |
| Witness(es) interpretation: | Not reported. |
| Explanation category: | Extraterrestrial beings or confusion. |
| Explanation certainty: | Medium. |
[Ref. js1:] JEAN SIDER:
The author indicates that on November 29, 1954, in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place, Saumur, the Maine-et-Loire, there was a close encounter of the third kind by Mr. Piednoir.
Jean Sider says that according to Le Baugeois, of Baugé, for December 3, 1954, page 4, "somebody noticed a flying saucer in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place". It was a very luminous machine "and the Martian was 1 m 30". The lamp of the witness went extinct.
According to L'Echo Républicain, of Sablé, for December 11, 1954, page 2: Mr. Piednoir had seen the machine posed in a wheat field, as well as its pilot, a character of small size.
[Ref. lh1] LARRY HATCH - "*U* COMPUTER DATABASE":
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4430: 1954/11/29 19:00 1 0:09:00 W 47:19:00 N 3332 WEU FRN M&L 8:6 St.MARTIN-dl-PLACE,FR:1 OBS:LUMN OBJ^/WHEATFIELD+1.2M OID OUTSIDE:POWER OUTAGE Ref#194 LUMIERES dans la NUIT.(LDLN France)Issue No. 325 : FARMLANDS |
[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:
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238. Location. St Martin De La Place France Date: November 29 1954 Time: 1900 One observer sees a luminous object in a wheat field and a short humanoid figure standing next to it. A power outage was reported in the area at the same time. No other information. HC addition # 2397 Source: LDLN # 325 Type: C |
[Ref. pg1:] PERSONAL EMAIL:
| Date written: | November 19, 2006 |
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| Date received: | November 19, 2006 |
| Date published: | February 11, 2007 |
| Date of sighting: | November 29, 1954 |
| Place of sighting: | France, Maine-et-Loire, Saint-Martin de la Place |
| Original language of report: | French |
| Reported using: | |
| Unreleased information: | Name, firstname, email address, street address |
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Subject: UFO saint martin de la place (maine et loire) hello, In following of your UFO description St Martin de la Place, I confirm the occurrence to you. Native of St clément des levées, a village close to St Martin, my grandparents managed a farm at the locality l'oussiere,in St clement,farm located at approximately 1,5km of the place of the landing of the object, located on the community of St Martin,in proximity of a river named authion,between the locations "le Guet de Fresne", community of St Martin,and " Patures"near St clement. Aged 5 years at the time, my grandparents told me about "the story" about my eighth year. According to their statements, the witness, well-knowd, was worthy of faith. Now aged 57, it will be difficult for me to find the descent of the witness,i forgot his name. I immediatly start investigations at people of more than 80 years old for additional information. According to your website, the same facts occurred on the community of blaison gohier on November 20, 1954, that is, 4 days before St Martin the distance between the two villages, in straight line, is of approximately 6 km. It is, in my opinion, difficult to question the word of the witnesses, certainly brave farmers,"amazed at their vision"! I will inform you of my research being half-way of the two concerned villages. Yours sincerely [Initials] [Firstname Name] 49250 |
[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:
The website indicates that on 29 November 1954 at 19:00 in St Martin De La Place, France, "One observer sees a luminous object in a wheat field and a short humanoid figure standing next to it. A power outage was reported in the area at the same time. No other information."
The source is a link to a non-existant web page.
[Ref. ni1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":
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*Nov. 29, 1954 - At seven p.m. a single witness saw a luminous object that had landed in a wheatfield in St. Martin-d'L-Place, Maine-et-Loire, France at the same time as a power outage. A 1.2 meter (4 foot) tall humanoid was seen standing next to it. (Source: Larry Hatch, U computer database, case 4197, citing Lumieres dans la Nuit, issue #325). |
[Ref. ta1:] "THINK ABOUT IT" WEBSITE:
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Location: St Martin De La Place France Date: November 29 1954 Time: 1900 One observer sees a luminous object in a wheat field and a short humanoid figure standing next to it. A power outage was reported in the area at the same time. No other information. Source: LDLN # 325 |
[Ref. jg1:] JULIEN GONZALEZ:
The author indicates that there was a close encounter of the third kind in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place, Saumur, the Maine-et-Loire, on the evening of November 29, 1954, with Mr. Piednoir as witness.
He had seen a very luminous machine posed in a wheat field and the pilot of the machine, 1 m 30 tall; and "the lamp was reported to go extinct".
The sources are indicated as Le Beaugeois, of Beaugé, for December 3, 1954; L'Echo Républicain, of Sablé, for December 11 1954; Jean Sider, Le Dossier 1954 et l'imposture rationaliste, pages 227-228.
[Ref. pr2:] PETER ROGERSON - "INTCAT":
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November 29 1954. SAINTE [sic] MARTIN DEL [sic] LA PLACE (MAINE ET LOIRE : FRANCE) At the time of a power outrage, a luminous figure was seen in a wheat field, with a short humanoid figure beside it. (Gross URECAT citing Rosales citing Lumieres dans le Nuit 325) |
Note: The source reference "Gross URECAT" is this page.
Here is probably one of the poorest reports ever since except a date, a village name, a time, mention of a luminous thing and a small humanoid, no other information seems available for a case that emerged more than 40 years after it allegedly occurred.
The report is much too meager to evaluate.
| Id: | Topic: | Severity: | Date noted: | Raised by: | Noted by: | Description: | Proposal: | Status: |
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| 1 | Data | Severe | July 21, 2007 | Patrick Gross | Patrick Gross | Data totally insufficient. | Help needed. | Opened. |
Extraterrestrial beings or confusion. Insufficient data.
* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.
| Main Author: | Patrick Gross |
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| Contributors: | None |
| Reviewers: | None |
| Editor: | Patrick Gross |
| Version: | Created/Changed By: | Date: | Change Description: |
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| 0.1 | Patrick Gross | November 11, 2006 | Creation, [ar1]. |
| 0.2 | Patrick Gross | November 11, 2006 | First published. |
| 1.0 | Patrick Gross | July 21, 2007 | Addition, [pg1]. Conversion from HTML4 to XHTML Strict. |
| 1.3 | Patrick Gross | November 22, 2016 | Additions [js1], [ud1], [ni1], [ta1], [jg1]. |
| 1.4 | Patrick Gross | November 26, 2018 | Additions [lh1], [pr2]. Summary changed, was "On November 29, 1954, in Saint-Martin-de-la-Place, Maine-et-Loire, France, someone saw a luminous object in a wheat field and a short humanoid figure standing next to it. A power outage was reported in the area at the same time." |
