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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

August 1932, Sandy Bay, Devon, U-K., Helen Done and her daughter Carol:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

Among the "ghost stories" British "skeptical" ufologist Peter Rogerson included in his INTCAT "entities" catalogue, there is this story date August 1932, at 06:00 p.m., in Sandy Bay, Devn, England:

"Helen Done and her daughter Carol were on their way back from a picnic, when on a narrow footpath, they were forced to step aside for a tall, stooping figure dressed in tattered clothing and a black hat. It seemed to fall sideways and vanish."

The source is indicated as "MacGregor 1959 p145".

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001661
Date of event: August 1932
Earliest report of event: 1959
Delay of report: Day, 3 decades.
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: Ghost stories book MacGregor.
First certain record by: Ufology catalogue Peter Rogerson.
First alleged record type: Ghost stories book.
First certain record type: "Skeptical" ufology catalogue.
This file created on: August 23, 2018
This file last updated on: August 23, 2018
Country of event: U-K.
State/Department: Devon
Type of location: On a narrow footpath in Sandy Bay.
Lighting conditions: Not reported.
UFO observed: No
UFO arrival observed: N/A
UFO departure observed: N/A
UFO/Entity Relation: None
Witnesses numbers: 2
Witnesses ages: Not reported.
Witnesses types: Not reported. A woman and her daughter.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Human
Entities height: Tall
Entities outfit type: Tattered clothing, black hat..
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Not reported.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Crossed witnesses on narrow path, seems to fall aside and disappear.
Entities/witness interactions: Crossed path of witness who had to step aside.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, went.
Witness(es) feelings: Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Ghost story, probable misinterpretation, low strangeness, not UFO-related.
Explanation certainty: High.

Narratives:

[Ref. pr1:] PETER ROGERSON:

August 1932. 1800hrs.

SANDY BAY (DEVON : ENGLAND)

Helen Done and her daughter Carol were on their way back from a picnic, when on a narrow footpath, they were forced to step aside for a tall, stooping figure dressed in tattered clothing and a black hat. It seemed to fall sideways and vanish.

MacGregor 1959 p145

Points to consider:

"MacGregor 1959 p145" given as a source in [pr1] certainly refers to the second book of ghost stories written by Alasdair Alpine MacGregor (1899-1970), Scottish writer, poet and photographer known for his large number of travel books and books on Scottish folklore, such as "The Ghost Book" in 1955. For 1959, it would be "Phantom Footsteps: A Second Ghost Book".

There maybe more details in the original source, but as the story stands here, it is obvious that oit could have been a drunk tramp who fell into a ditch.

In any case, theis has certainly nothing to do wit UFOs, and even for a "ghost story", it lacks strangeness.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe August 23, 2018 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Primary source [am1] not available. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Ghost story, probable misinterpretation, low strangeness, not UFO-related.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross August 23, 2018 Creation, [pr1].
1.0 Patrick Gross August 23, 2018 First published.

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