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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

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Autumn 1932, Rahoy, Argyle, U-K., John MacDougall:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

British "skeptical" ufologist Peter Rogerson listed in his INTCAT catalogue sometime between the 1970's and the 2010's that in Autumn 1932, at night, in Rahoy, Morven, Aryle, Scotland, "John MacDougall saw a strange light at low level. Suspecting a light held by an intruder he followed and almost reached it, but as he did so, it disappeared."

He indicated the source as "MacGregor 1955 p215".

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001659
Date of event: 1932 or January 1935
Earliest report of event: 1955
Delay of report: Hours, 2 decades?
Witness reported via: Uncertain, to author Alasdair Alpin MacGrewgor?
First alleged record by: Ghost stories book by Alasdair Alpin MacGregor.
First certain record by: Ghost stories book by Alasdair Alpin MacGregor.
First alleged record type: Ghost stories book.
First certain record type: Ghost stories book.
This file created on: August 21, 2018
This file last updated on: August 21, 2018
Country of event: U-K.
State/Department: Argyle.
Type of location: Near home in Rahoy.
Lighting conditions: Night
UFO observed: Uncertain.
UFO arrival observed: Uncertain.
UFO departure observed: Uncertain.
UFO/Entity Relation: Uncertain
Witnesses numbers: 2
Witnesses ages: Not reported. Adults.
Witnesses types: Not reported. A local man, a local woman.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: ?
Type of entities: ?
Entities height: ?
Entities outfit type: ?
Entities outfit color: ?
Entities skin color: ?
Entities body: ?
Entities head: ?
Entities eyes: ?
Entities mouth: ?
Entities nose: ?
Entities feet: ?
Entities arms: ?
Entities fingers: ?
Entities fingers number: ?
Entities hair: ?
Entities voice: ?
Entities actions: ?
Entities/witness interactions: ?
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, pursuit, went.
Witness(es) feelings: Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation: Intruder, or unexplanable..
Explanation category: Missing information.
Explanation certainty: High.

Narratives:

[Ref. pr1:] PETER ROGERSON:

Autumn 1932. Night.

RAHOY, MORVEN (ARGYLE : SCOTLAND)

John MacDougall saw a strange light at low level. Suspecting a light held by an intruder he followed and almost reached it, but as he did so, it disappeared.

MacGregor 1955 p215

Points to consider:

The source given in [pr1] is a ghost book, by Alasdair Alpin MacGregor (1899–1970), a Scottish writer, poet and photographer known for a large number of travel books and books on Scottish folklore, such as "The Ghost Book", first published in London in 1955, in which this story appeared.

Peter Rogerson [pr1] is a British ufologist who started his "INTCAT" CE3 catalogue in the 1970's - reworked in the 2010's. He thought that all CE3 reports were either hoaxes or misinterpretations, thought that they were a modern folklore, and started to introduce in his catalogue numerous tales that had to do with the folklore, such as this ghost story.

In a somehow "double-standard" manner, Peter Rogerson also charges that ufologists wrongly include such stories in their catalogue to claim they are ancient encounters with aliens.

The case value in INCAT is close to null: there is no entity, not even a ghost. Just a light, and the suspicion by the witness that maybe it was held by an intruder. This looks of course as if it could be totally invented, or a very low strangeness misinterpretation, or really some intruder holding a light.

The case by [pr1] here is only 1 line. Second hand sources are sometimes shoddy, incomplete or even inaccurate - whether from "believers" or "skeptics". So I suspected it may be more details in the original source, alas it is a rare book that I do not own yet. However, I found two small extracts that says:

One midnight in January, 1933, Evelyn Newton and her late husband noticed at Rahoy, their home, a strange light [... missing part... ] Evelyn Newton, accompanied by the same John MacDougall, was returning home at twilight when both of them saw a queer, stationary light high up in a tree in the wood a quarter of mile or so from her house at Rahoy. "I noticed it first," she told me. "I called John back to look at it. He saw it, quite plainly. He had no explanation to [... missing continuation]

Thus the [pr1] source may really be incomplete:

  1. It may have occurred in "January 1933" instead of "1932" The extracts I have suggest 2 sightings, maybe even 3, with a first one dated January 1933.
  2. There were not 1 alleged witness but, very clearly, 2: Evelyn Newton and John MacDougall.
  3. The reporting witness seems to be Evelyn Newton, and maybe she reported directedly to the author, MacGregor.
  4. The original reports looks much more detailed that the [pr1] version. For example, time, distance, witness quotes.

Of course I looked for other sources, with dates 1932 and 1933, and found none in my ufology library and documents, none on UFO websites, none in ghost stories from books or from the Internet.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe August 21, 2018 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Primary source [mg1] incomplete. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Missing information.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross August 21, 2018 Creation, [pr1].
1.0 Patrick Gross August 21, 2018 First published.

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