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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

1932, Metz, Moselle, France, a nun:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

In his regional catalog of humanoid observations from northeastern France and Luxembourg, published in the ufology magazine Lumières Dans La Nuit for October 1986, Raoul Robé reports that in 1932 in Metz, France, there was an "apparition of the Blessed Virgin to a nun of the convent", according to "L. Blaise, Alonso."

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001723
Date of event: 1932 to 1936
Earliest report of event: 1986?
Delay of report: Hours, decades?
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: List of "appearances of the Blessed Virgin".
First certain record by: List of "appearances of the Blessed Virgin".
First alleged record type: List of "appearances of the Blessed Virgin".
First certain record type: List of "appearances of the Blessed Virgin".
This file created on: October 1, 2018
This file last updated on: October 1, 2018
Country of event: France
State/Department: Moselle
Type of location: Conven.
Lighting conditions: Not reported.
UFO observed: No
UFO arrival observed: N/A
UFO departure observed: N/A
UFO/Entity Relation: Sans
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages: Not reported. Young, adult adult or aged.
Witnesses types: Not reported. Nun.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: "Blessed Virgin"
Entities height: Not reported.
Entities outfit type: Not reported.
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Not reported.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: Not reported.
Entities actions: Not reported.
Entities/witness interactions: Not reported.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed.
Witness(es) feelings: Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Totally insufficient data, not UFO-related.
Explanation certainty: High.

Narratives:

[Ref. rr1:] RAOUL ROBE:

LIST OF THE HUMANOID CASE ON THE N-E

CASE Nr DATE HOUR PLACE WITNESSES SEX
6 ??.??.32 ? M* Metz (57) 1 relig. F

Case # 6

In 1932 in Metz (57)

Bless Virgin appearance to a nun of the convent. (Ref. L. Blaise, Alonso).

Points to consider:

In the "Dictionnaire des "'apparitions' de la Vierge Marie" by René Laurentin and Patrick Sbalchiero (Fayard, 2007), one reads that in Metz, from 1932 to 1935, "The 'Blessed Virgin appears several times' to a cloistered nun":

Mentions of this are also on religious websites:

I still do not know what "Blessed Virgin apparitions" would have to do intrinsically with UFO occupants or UFOs, except that some ufologists argue that thone ones prove the falsity of the others, or that some ufologist are convinced that it would be "the same phenomenon".

What is quite incomprehensible, too, is the fact that catalogs, which are meant to be exhaustive, include a certain number of apparitions of the Virgin, but they omit almost all of them. Here for example, we have, for Lorraine alone:

Source: at http://jpsnyers.blogspot.com/2013/07/les-apparitions-de-la-vierge-en-lorraine.html

Which makes us a minimum of 20 appearances. Raoul Robé's catalog lists only 8 for the entire north-east of France and Luxembourg - much more than Lorraine.

I find the same pattern in another skeptical catalog, which also includes "ghost stories". If all were to be included, there would be an incredibly larger number.

It will be understood that it is a matter of "making examples": ghosts, "Blessed Virgin", beinf unreal, such reports can be cataloged "side by side" with those of UFO occupants, it would be the "same phenomenon", which would be of the order of invention, of illusion.

The problem for me is that this is a "holistic" approach to things; no case is deepened, no reflection or research is conducted, there is just a kind of very incomplete inventory of very brief summaries, the sources are often cryptic ("L. Blaise, Alonso", who knows who and what it is? Who? When? Where? How?). Who would be satisifed in evaluating a case really related to the question of the occupants of UFOs with such vague data?

I am the last to challenge the existence of hoaxes, misconceptions, belief-based inventions, whether religious or "alien". But can it be said that this is the central and unique problem? Should we not rather correctly document cases and do as much research and case-by-case verifications as possible? This is the approach I am trying to follow.

So for this case, I see a complete lack of data, a total absence of details. Many websites and books "specialized" in "apparitions of the virgin" report this case, but the only information is, each time, "Metz 1932 - The Virgin Mary appeared several times to a cloistered nun from 1932 to 1935."

Will I quote Daniel Costelle's book, "Apparitions à Fatima" (Presses du Chatelet, 2007) where we find "Metz 1932 and 1935" (instead of "1932 to 1935") with as an introduction to this case and others, "I have documented myself on these French appearances, I will quote several, and if readers have information about them, I would be very grateful to them to communicate it to me." Me too!

What would "skeptics" say about an alleged extraterrestrial encounter where:

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
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Evaluation:

Totally insufficient data, not UFO-related.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross October 1, 2018 Creation, [rr1].
1.0 Patrick Gross October 1, 2018 First published.

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