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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

1932, Scartwater, Queensland, Australia, Bert Bagnall:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

A "Bigfoot" book in 2006, and a "skeptical" CE3 catalogue in 2018, said that in 1932, in Scartwater, Queensland, Australia, prospector Bert Bagnall was hunting crocodiles, when he looked up and saw an ape-like thing on the opposite bank. It ran off into the bush.

It comes from an article of 1992 in People magazine. The alleged gold prospector is supposed to have seen these creatures, called "Bunyips", many times, and wants to shoot at them although he thinks they could be old miners who evaded the pressures of social life.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001654
Date of event: 1932
Earliest report of event: 1992
Delay of report: 6 decades.
Witness reported via: Not known.
First alleged record by: "People" magazine.
First certain record by: "People" magazine.
First alleged record type: Non ufological sensation magazine.
First certain record type: Non ufological sensation magazine.
This file created on: August 18, 2018
This file last updated on: August 18, 2018
Country of event: Australia
State/Department: Queensland
Type of location: Near a river.
Lighting conditions: Not reported.
UFO observed: No
UFO arrival observed: N/A
UFO departure observed: N/A
UFO/Entity Relation: None.
Witnesses numbers: 1
Witnesses ages: Adult.
Witnesses types: Gold prospector.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Ape-like
Entities height: 1.75 meters.
Entities outfit type: Not reported.
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Not reported.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Vovered of hair.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Was there, ran away.
Entities/witness interactions: Fled.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, tried to shoot at it, went.
Witness(es) feelings: Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation: Old miners who evaded social life.
Explanation category: Probable invention, not UFO-related.
Explanation certainty: Certain.

Narratives:

[Ref. tl1:] TONY LAMBERT:

A North Queensland Prospector who's had no ·less than six run-ins with the legendary Bunyip believes the creature may be old fossickers gone bush.

"I think this one's a hermit who has given up mining as the gold run out and he has a fortune stashed away," says the 83-year-old Bert Bagnall, who is now living in Townsville. "He keeps showing up every so often when he needs water and supplies such as wild fruit."

In this instance Bert is referring to a confrontation at Charters Towers near an early gold mining site on Towers hill. But he believes many Bunyips could be old men who have deliberately bowed out of the rat race.

"I think that in all the .places I've seen Bunyips they could well have been old miners who were not interested in being a part of normal life," he says. Bert saw his first Bunyip in 1932.

He'd just shot a big saltwater Crocodile in a lagoon on Scartwater Station when he looked up and saw the creature on the opposite bank. "It was about 175cm tall, with lots of hair on it," Bert recalls. "But it took off at great speed into the bush and I never even had time to fire at it."

In the years since Bert's seen Bunyips in Paluma (where, in the past decade, two people have mysteriously disappeared without a trace in the dense rain forests), near the Flinders river, at Charters Towers and at Ravenswood historical Cemetery, about 120km from Townsville.

Common to all the areas was an abundance of Kangaroo's and Wallabies, which Bert believes the Bunyips eat, and gold mines.

Gold is the common thread to Bert's sightings and adds weight to his old miner theory. It also helps to explain why Bert - a gold prospector himself - has seen so many Bunyips whereas other bushmen see none.

Bert has discovered a few promising nuggets at a spot between Townsville and Charters Towers and will shortly be returning there, with a friend to search for more gold.

He also fully expects to find more Bunyips but says he's going there un-armed. "I just think the Bunyips just want to be left alone in peace and bloody Humans keep annoying them."

[Ref. pr1:] PETER ROGERSON:

1932.

SCARTWATER (QUEENSLAND : AUSTRALIA)

While hunting crocodiles prospector Bert Bagnall looked up and saw an ape like thing on the opposite bank. It ran off into the bush.

Healy and Cropper 2006 p219 case 56 citing Tony Lambert in People 28 July 1992

Points to consider:

The credibility of the source may be questionable. Below, some covers of People magazine for 1992:

Some "skeptical" researchers and authors, including Peter Rogerson, criticize - rightfully I think - "believers" for trying to include such tales, unrelated to UFOs, into the ufology litterature as "ancient" manifestations of the UFO phenomenon or alien visitors.

This case was introduced in the ufology literature only by a skeptical researcher, Peter Rogerson. The argumentation is that such cases show that human imagination and misperceptions have always existed.

This story come from a magazine without any credibility, ufologically speaking. The story sounds made up: why would a gold prospector shoot down people he thinks may be ancient miners who escaped society?

In any case, this has nothing to do with UFO reports or UFO occupants, except, maybe, as an example of hoax unrelated to UFOs.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
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Evaluation:

Probable invention, not UFO-related.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross August 18, 2018 Creation, [tl1], [pr1].
1.0 Patrick Gross August 18, 2018 First published.

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