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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

About February 1930, Frant, Sussex, U-K., three people:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

About 2016, appeared in "skeptical" British ufologist Peter Rogerson's INTCAT catalog of encounters with "entities", a case came apparently from a 1948 or 1952 ghost stories book by Elliott O'Donnell, apparently first published as a letter in a newspaper called Morning Post for February 21, 1930:

At the approximate date of February 1930, in Sussex, England, three people driving towards Frant on the road from Lamberhurst through a wooded area, saw what looked like a car parked on the side of the road about 150 meters ahead.

After some moments, the thing just vanished. There were no turn offs at the site.

I note that obviously no entties were reported in this case.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001721
Date of event: About February 930
Earliest report of event: 21 février 1930
Delay of report: Day, years?
Witness reported via: Letter to a newspaper.
First alleged record by: Newspaper.
First certain record by: Ghost stories book Elliott O'Donnell.
First alleged record type: Newspaper.
First certain record type: Ghost stories book.
This file created on: September 17, 2018
This file last updated on: September 17, 2018
Country of event: U-K.
State/Department: Sussex
Type of location: Frpm the road from Lamberhurst to Frant.
Lighting conditions: Not reported.
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: No
UFO departure observed: Yes
UFO/Entity Relation: N/A
Witnesses numbers: 3
Witnesses ages: Not reported. Adults.
Witnesses types: Not reported.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 0
Type of entities: N/A
Entities height: N/A
Entities outfit type: N/A
Entities outfit color: N/A
Entities skin color: N/A
Entities body: N/A
Entities head: N/A
Entities eyes: N/A
Entities mouth: N/A
Entities nose: N/A
Entities feet: N/A
Entities arms: N/A
Entities fingers: N/A
Entities fingers number: N/A
Entities hair: N/A
Entities voice: N/A
Entities actions: N/A
Entities/witness interactions: N/A
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, went.
Witness(es) feelings: Not reported.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Unexplained, not a CE3.
Explanation certainty: High.

Narratives:

[Ref. pr1:] PETER ROGERSON:

February 1930. (approx. date)

FRANT (SUSSEX : ENGLAND)

Three people driving towards Frant on the road from Lamberhurst, through a wooded area saw what looked like a car parked on the side of the road about 150m ahead. After some moments the thing just vanished. There were no turn offs at the site.

O’ Donnell 1948 p67 citing letter in Morning Post 21 February. 1930

Points to consider:

Elliott O'Donnell (1872-1965) was an author known primarily for his books about ghosts. He claimed to have seen a ghost, described as an elemental figure covered with spots, when he was five years old. He also claimed to have been strangled by a mysterious phantom in Dublin, however, no permanent effect would seem to have been suffered.

He wrote numerous books about ghosts stories and the supernatural:

I found out that soe Elliott O'Donnel biblighraphies date his "Haunted Britain" book of 1948, others of 1952.

The story is far too vague for us to say much about it. Was it a "ghost car" or an unidentified craft? But one thing seems clear to me: no figure, no entity had been reported, so I do not understand why Peter rogerson included this in his INTCAT catalog which by its definition is supposed to be a ufological catalog of encounters with entities or UFO occupants.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe September 17, 2018 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Primary source [mp1] not available. Help needed. Opened.
2 Data Severe September 17, 2018 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Secondary source [ed1] not available. Help needed. Opened.
3 Ufology Severe September 17, 2018 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Totally insufficient information: hour, size, witnesses, descritopns are not given. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Unexplained, not a CE3.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross September 17, 2018 Creation, [pr1].
1.0 Patrick Gross September 17, 2018 First published.

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