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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

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1930's, Central Desert, Western Australia, Australia, an aboriginal man:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

Australian ufologist Bill Chalker reports that in September 1993 he had discussed with John Kernott, a postman in the Kimberleys, Western Australia, who had many stories told by the aborigines.

Around 1989, John's father-in-law, an aboriginal, told him that when he was a young man in the 1930s he camped with a group of aborigines before the white man deported them from their land, when they saw a green light spinning in the sky.

This light landed behind trees, and a large number of "little men shining with green light" came. They walked around the aborigines, watched them, then returned to their craft; which then took off.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001667
Date of event: Années 1930
Earliest report of event: Around 1989
Delay of report: 6 decades.
Witness reported via: Witness to son-in-law then son-in law to ufologist Bill Chalker.
First alleged record by: Ufology book Bill Chalker
First certain record by: Ufology article Bill Chalker.
First alleged record type: Ufology book.
First certain record type: Ufology article.
This file created on: September 20, 2013
This file last updated on: September 20, 2013
Country of event: Australia
State/Department: Western Australia
Type of location: Outside in the Central Desert.
Lighting conditions: Not reported.
UFO observed: Yes
UFO arrival observed: Yes
UFO departure observed: Yes
UFO/Entity Relation: Certain
Witnesses numbers: Several
Witnesses ages: Not reported Adults.
Witnesses types: Local aborigines.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: 1
Type of entities: Humanoid or human
Entities height: Small
Entities outfit type: One piece tight fitting.
Entities outfit color: Not reported.
Entities skin color: Not reported.
Entities body: Not reported. Little men shining with green light.
Entities head: Not reported.
Entities eyes: Not reported.
Entities mouth: Not reported.
Entities nose: Not reported.
Entities feet: Not reported.
Entities arms: Not reported.
Entities fingers: Not reported.
Entities fingers number: Not reported.
Entities hair: Not reported.
Entities voice: None heard.
Entities actions: Came out of UFO, saw witness, went back in, departure.
Entities/witness interactions: None.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, went.
Witness(es) feelings: Frightened.
Witness(es) interpretation: Not reported.
Explanation category: Extraterrestrial visitors or invention.
Explanation certainty: High.

Narratives:

[Ref. bc1:] BILL CHALKER:

In about 1989 John's father-in-law, an aborigine, told him that when he was a young man (in about the 1930s) camping with a group of aborigines, before the white man took them off their land, they saw a green light spinning around in the sky. It landed behind trees. Lots of little men shining with green light came. They walked around the aborigines, looking at them, and then walked back to the UFO, which then took off. (10)

10: Personal interview with John Kernott, September, 1993

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that in Central Desert, Western Australia, in 1930, at an unknown time, "An aboriginal man remembered camping with his tribe when they saw a green light spinning around in the sky. It landed behind some trees. Soon, lots of little men shining with green light came out from the trees. They walked around the tribe, looking at the witnesses, and then walked back to the object, which then took off."

Albert Rosales indicates that the source is "Bill Chalker, The Oz Files".

[Ref. js1:] JEAN SIDER:

The author indicates that in 1930 perhaps, at an unknown date, in Central Desert, Kimberley, western Australia, there was a close encounter of the third kind.

He indicates that an aboriginal witness, who happened to be the father-in-law of a postman named John Kernott, told one day to the latter an observation made as a child, "in the 1930s" in his own words; which leaves a range of ten years to date the incident exactly in time.

He indicates that the witness was with his tribe in a camp in the middle of nature, and at the time the white people had not yet hunted all its members, who rightly considered this place as their property. The whole tribe suddenly saw a green light circling in the sky; which landed on the ground behind some trees.

Many glowing little men carrying green lights appeared, and walked around the tribe as they gazed at them, then returned to their craft and departed.

Jean Sider comments that there are no other details cited in the source, "Chalker 1, p.22, according to testimony obtained from John Kernott."

Jean Sider comments that there is another Australian case in 1933, which could explain this one.

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

1930 - Central Desert, Western Australia, Australia

1930:

Central Desert, Western Australia, Australia

An aboriginal man remembered camping with his tribe when...

An aboriginal man remembered camping with his tribe when they saw a green light spinning around in the sky. It landed behind some trees. Soon, lots of little men shining with green light came out from the trees. They walked around the tribe, looking at the witnesses, and then walked back to the object, which then took off.

Hynek rating: CE3

The source is indicated as "Rosales, Albert, Humanoid Sighting Reports Database".

[Ref. ta1:] "THINK ABOUT IT" WEBSITE:

Date: 1930

Location: Central Desert, Western Australia

Time:

Summary: An aboriginal man remembered camping with his tribe when they saw a green light spinning around in the sky. It landed behind some trees. Soon, lots of little men shining with green light came out from the trees. They walked around the tribe, looking at the witnesses, and then walked back to the object, which then took off.

Source: Bill Chalker, The Oz Files

[Ref. kb2:] KEITH BASTERFIELD:

1930's

In about 1989 John's father-in-law, an Aboriginal man, told him that when he was a young man in the 1930s, camping with his tribe before the white man took them off their land, they saw a green light spinning around in the sky. It landed behind trees. Lots of little men shining with green light came. They walked around the tribe, looking at them, and then walked back to the UFO, which took off.

Source: Chalker, Bill The Oz Files. Duffy & Snellgrove. Potts Point, NSW. 1996. p.22.

Notes: The John mentioned is researcher John Kernott.

Points to consider:

Bill Chalker, the first reporting source for this case, was born in Grafton, New South Wales, Australia, in 1952. He studied at the University of New England, receiving a degree in chemistry and mathematics. He became a UFO researcher au author and contributing editor for the International UFO Reporter, He was the Australian representative for the Aerial Phenomena Research Organisation (APRO) from 1978 to 1986 and a New South Wales state representative for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) from 1976 to 1993.

John Kernott was a mailman in the Kimberleys, Australia, who told a lot of strange stories from aboriginals to Bill Chalker. John Kernott witnessed a UFO homself and became a UFO researcher based in Broome, Australia.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Ufology Severe September 20, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Very succinct report. Help needed. Opened.
2 Ufology Severe September 20, 2013 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross single second-hand witness. Help needed. Opened.

Evaluation:

Extraterrestrial visitors or invention.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross September 20, 2013 Creation, [bc1], [ar1], [js1], [ud1], [ta1], [kb2].
1.0 Patrick Gross September 20, 2013 First published.

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