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URECAT - UFO Related Entities Catalog

URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. Additional information, corrections and reviews are welcome at patrick.gross@inbox.com, please state if you wish to be credited for your contribution or not. The main page of the URECAT catalog is here.

SUMMER 1920, NONTRON, DORDOGNE, FRANCE, LOUISE TALBOT, MARIE BOUSSARIE, AND OTHERS:

Brief summary of the event and follow-up:

The author states that during the "good season" in the summer of 1920, at 11 p.m. or 12 p.m. on a Saturday or Sunday evening, in Nontron, the Dordogne, France many young people including two sisters, Louise Talbot and Marie Boussarie, experienced a CE3.

Young people were returning from a ball walking in small groups irregularly spaced. Marie and Louise were certainly not the only ones to discover, between localities of Chamoulies or Samoulies or Chamouille and La Légerie, the following display:

Above a small wood near the road, a number of small creatures almost looking like humans moved in all directions above the treetops, emitting sounds called "musical". They were surrounded by balls of light and glow that gave to the display a rather magical atmosphere.

The sisters said they had not experienced anxiety. There is no other information. The sisters gave these details to the investigators in 1975, on the place where it had occurred 55 years earlier.

The source is LDLN #313, 1992, p. 25, investigation by Joël Mesnard and F. Gallien during the summer of 1975 in the Dordogne.

Basic information table:

Case number: URECAT-001449
Date of event: 1920
Earliest report of event: 1973 or 1975
Delay of report: 52 or 55 years
Witness reported via: Told to ufologists Joêl Mesnard and F. Gallien.
First alleged record by: Ugologists Joêë Mesnard and F. Gallien in LDLN.
First certain record by: Ugologists Joêë Mesnard and F. Gallien in LDLN.
First alleged record type: Investigation report in ufology magazine.
First certain record type: Investigation report in ufology magazine.
This file created on: October 3, 2017
This file last updated on: October 3, 2017
Country of event: France
State/Department: Dordogne
Type of location: Country.
Lighting conditions: Night
UFO observed: Uncertain
UFO arrival observed: Not reported
UFO departure observed: Not reported
UFO/Entity Relation: Uncertain
Witnesses numbers: 2
Witnesses ages: Teenager, 16.
Witnesses types: Teenage girls.
Photograph(s): No.
Witnesses drawing: No.
Witnesses-approved drawing: No.
Number of entities: More than 2
Type of entities: Humanoid
Entities height: Small
Entities outfit type: Not reported or not seen.
Entities outfit color: Not reported or not seen.
Entities skin color: Not reported or not seen.
Entities body: Not reported. Quasi human
Entities head: Not reported or not seen.
Entities eyes: Not reported or not seen.
Entities mouth: Not reported or not seen.
Entities nose: Not reported or not seen.
Entities feet: Not reported. Moving legs
Entities arms: Not reported or not seen.
Entities fingers: Not reported or not seen.
Entities fingers number: Not reported or not seen.
Entities hair: Not reported or not seen.
Entities voice: Emit "musical" sound.
Entities actions: Fly around above wood.
Entities/witness interactions: None.
Witness(es) reactions: Observed, went.
Witness(es) feelings: Not frightened.
Witness(es) interpretation: One did not care, other thought: angels.
Explanation category: Unexplained, insufficient data.
Explanation certainty: High.

Narratives:

[Ref. jc1:] JEROME CLARK:

Jerone Clark says that near Nontron, France, "summer 1920: Late at night, they returned home from a dance. A group of young people saw small beings in the air over a wooded area. Luminous ball, surrounded the figure, who were giving off 'musical sounds.' Two of the witnesses were interviewed in 1975."

The source is indicated as HUMCAT.

[Ref. ar1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Albert Rosales indicates in his catalogue that near Nontron, Dordogne, France , on the summer of 1920 at 2300 , "On a Saturday evening, between 2300 and midnight, a group of young people was returning from a dance when they saw in the sky, above a little wood, a strange spectacle; a group of beings of small stature about in the air, and giving off “musical sounds.” The young people cold see their little legs move about, and noticed that there surroundings the figures a number of luminous balls that gave to the group a “fiery aspect.” According to the accounts of two of the group, Louise and Marie Grasset, they felt no fear at the strange sight."

Albert Rosales indicates that the source is " Joel Mesnard & Jean Marie Bigorne ".

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website says that in Mid-1920 at 23:00 in Nontron, France, "Little man report, no UFO."

And: "Little men observed. An unidentified object at close range and its occupants were observed by several witnesses (Grasset)."

The source is indicated as "Webb, David, HUMCAT: Catalogue of Humanoid Reports".

[Ref. js1:] JEAN SIDER:

The author states that during the "good season" in the summer of 1920, at 11 p.m. or 12 p.m. on a Saturday or Sunday evening, in Nontron, the Dordogne, France many young people including two sisters, Louise Talbot and Marie Boussarie, experienced a CE3.

Young people were returning from a ball walking in small groups irregularly spaced. Marie and Louise were certainly not the only ones to discover, between localities of Chamoulies or Samoulies or Chamouille and La Légerie, the following display:

Above a small wood near the road, a number of small creatures almost looking like humans moved in all directions above the treetops, emitting sounds called "musical". They were surrounded by balls of light and glow that gave to the display a rather magical atmosphere.

The sisters said they had not experienced anxiety. There is no other information. The sisters gave these details to the investigators in 1975, on the place where it had occurred 55 years earlier.

The source is LDLN #313, 1992, p. 25, investigation by Joël Mesnard and F. Gallien during the summer of 1975 in the Dordogne.

[Ref. tp1:] "THE PROFESSOR":

L). 1920, Nontron, France. A bunch of young people returning from a dance, when near a small woods, noticed a lighted area in the sky. That area was a group of beings of small stature moving through the air producing musical sounds. The scene was pleasing to view and not frightening. You could see the beings' legs move about and fiery colored balls move along with them. (HUMCAT from an unpublished Ms.).

[Ref. ar2:] ALBERT ROSALES:

Another interesting event, one that it would have been classified as a CE3 in modern ‘Ufological’ parlance, the action taken in the part of the unknown entities was apparently a self defense action. It is unfortunate that there is not a more precise location provided for this extremely high strangeness event.

According to veteran French researchers Joel Mesnard and Jean Marie Bigorne sometime during the summer of 1920 near the town of Nontron in the Dordogne region of France the following peculiar event took place:

On a Saturday evening, between 2300 and midnight, a group of young people was returning from a dance when they saw in the sky, above a little wood, a strange spectacle; a group of beings of small stature about in the air, and giving off “musical sounds.” The young people could see their little legs move about, and noticed that surroundings the figures were a number of luminous balls that gave to the group a “fiery aspect.” According to the accounts of two of the group, Louise and Marie Grasset, they felt no fear at the strange sight.

It appears to have been an encounter with a sort of luminous and flying entity. The ‘musical sounds’ reported is interesting as there have been many similar reports throughout the years in which ‘musical tones’ have been connected with the appearance of UFOs and strange entities.

[Ref. jg1:] JULIEN GONZALEZ:

The author indicates that in 1920 at 11 p.m. or midnight, witnesses returning from a ball walked in small groups irregularly spaced between Chamoulies or Samoulies or Chainoullé, and La Lègerie, when they saw a strange display.

Above a small wood near the road, they could see a number of creatures of small size and almost human aspect which moved in all directions above the tops of trees while emitting sounds called "musical."

They were surrounded by luminous balls and gleams which gave the whole a rather fairy-like appearance.

Julien Gonzalez indicates that this case was received from two direct witnesses, Talbot and Busseries, in a 1975 investigation by Joël Mesnard and F. Gallien.

[Ref. jm1:] JOEL MESNARD:

This ufologist indicates that in 1973 he was able to collect in the Dordogne the memories of Louise Talbot and Marie Boussarie, who were in 1920 the Grasset sisters, and remembered an adventure that had marked them very much.

At night, probably on a Saturday evening or a Sunday evening, in the summer, along with other teenagers, they returned from a country ball and were going home at La Boucherie.

Both of them insisted on the circumstances: balls were then the principal distraction of a rural youth much more numerous than today, the rural exodus having begun only later. No motorized means of transport was widespread in remote areas of the Dordogne, and evening dances offered a show of many small groups of young people going to the ball or returning along small roads that were not little more than paths.

When they found themselves between Samoulies or Chamouilley and the Lègerie, near Nontron, descending a small hill, shortly before reaching La Lègerie, they saw appearing in the sky, above a wood, one or two hundred meters from them, a strange spectacle: a certain number of small creatures were moving in the air, emitting musical sounds.

They said that "their little legs were moving," and that "they were surrounded by luminous balls and gleams giving the whole a fairy-like appearance." Other young people in the country witnessed this, but it was not possible in 1973 to find them. Louise, careless as one can be at 16, gave little attention to this appearance, while her sister, more imbued with religious education, interpreted it as an angelic apparition.

Points to consider:

The narrative is collected by two field ufologists, 52 or 55 years before the facts, and they wait another fifteen years or so before publishing it.

There is no information on the concordance or divergence of the two sisters' accounts. No skecthes, maps, detailed description of creatures, no number even pproximate (5? 10? 20? 100?), no angular sizes, details on the luminous balls or lights (number, layout, angular sizes, colors...

It is hard to see what misinterpretation this may have been, however. A nocturnal butterfly hunt? Bats above campfire? This is nevertheless doubtful to me.

List of issues:

Id: Topic: Severity: Date noted: Raised by: Noted by: Description: Proposal: Status:
1 Data Severe October 3, 2017 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Nissing the primary source LDLN 313 of 1992. Help needed. Open.
2 Ufology Severe October 3, 2017 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Lack of details. Help needed. Open.
3 Ufology Severe October 3, 2017 Patrick Gross Patrick Gross Very late report. - -

Evaluation:

Unexplained, insufficient data.

Sources references:

* = Source I checked.
? = Source I am told about but could not check yet. Help appreciated.

Document history:

Authoring

Main Author: Patrick Gross
Contributors: None
Reviewers: None
Editor: Patrick Gross

Changes history

Version: Created/Changed By: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross October 3, 2017 Creation, [jc1], [ar1], [ud1], [js1], [tp1], [ar2], [jg1], [jm1].
1.0 Patrick Gross October 3, 2017 First published.

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