Engle, New Mexico, USA, on June 27, 1947:
ACUFO-06-27-ENGLE-1
The newspaper The Albuquerque Journal for June 29, 1947, among sightings from the ground of a "falling body" in Engle and New Mexico area, noted that a "Captain Dvyan of the Alamogordo air base", in a private plane near Engle, at about 8000 feet altitude, looked down and saw "a ball of fire with a blue fiery tail" about 2000 feet below him.
The newspaper added that it "disintegrated as he watched", and that "Dvyan said he was sure it was a meteorite."
The Press then noted that Colonel Harold R. Tuner (he was the White Sands Proving Grounds commander at the time) explained those sightings as a "meteorite"; Turner was to send an automobile to Engle to prove this.
In 1969, U.S. ufologist Ted Bloecher reported this case, adding that Engle was now called "Truth or Consequences", and that he could not find the dubious name "Dvyan" in the 1947 edition of The Army Register; with assistance of Miss Lynn Catoe of the Library of Congress, the Military Personnel Center in St. Louis was contacted, and they verified the fact that no "Dvyan" was registered in 1947. However, the records showed a Captain Robert D. Dwan, who was born in Texas and was on active duty in 1947; Bloecher thought he may be the pilot who made the air-to-air observation at Engle.
In 2000, U.S. ufologist Loren E. Gross also reported the case, suggesting that "Col. Turner was a bit uncomfortable with the meteor suggestion since the object was reported below Dvyan's plane."
Others would record this case, often without the witness' comment that he was "sure it was a meteorite," often without any reference to what Turner had said.
| Date: | June 27, 1947 |
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| Time: | Day. |
| Duration: | ? |
| First known report date: | June 29, 1947 |
| Reporting delay: | Hours, 2 days. |
| Country: | USA |
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| State/Department: | New Mexico |
| City or place: | Engle |
| Number of alleged witnesses: | 1 |
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| Number of known witnesses: | 1 |
| Number of named witnesses: | 1 |
| Reporting channel: | The Press. |
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| Visibility conditions: | Day. |
| UFO observed: | Yes. |
| UFO arrival observed: | ? |
| UFO departure observed: | Yes. |
| UFO action: | Flies, disintegrates. |
| Witnesses action: | Observed. |
| Photographs: | No. |
| Sketch(s) by witness(es): | No. |
| Sketch(es) approved by witness(es): | No. |
| Witness(es) feelings: | ? |
| Witnesses interpretation: | Meteor. |
| Sensors: |
[X] Visual: 1.
[ ] Airborne radar: N/A. [ ] Directional ground radar: [ ] Height finder ground radar: [ ] Photo: [ ] Film/video: [ ] EM Effects: [ ] Failures: [ ] Damages: |
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| Hynek: | DD |
| Armed / unarmed: | Unarmed. |
| Reliability 1-3: | 2 |
| Strangeness 1-3: | 1 |
| ACUFO: | Meteor. |
[Ref. ale1:] NEWSPAPER "THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL":
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Recent press stories of the "discovery" of flying saucers, discs, and "puzzling objects" in Southwestern skies brought the following comment from Justin B. Rinaldi, Los Alamos, in a letter to The Journal Saturday.
"Last September 11, I was in Engle, N. M., the time of day was about 2 p. m. and the day was a nice and clear one. I was standing in the backyard of a friend's house when the stillness of the day was broken by a loud whirring sound. It was like that of a strong gust of wind gushing through a pipe. I looked directly overhead just in time to see a black object about two or three feet long whizz by. It was pointed at one end and had a narrow body and what appeared to be fins on the tail end. It was traveling at a high rate of speed about 75 feet off the ground. I saw it hit a clump of trees at the Diamond A ranch house and the branches parted as if a great force had struck. I organized a search party to search the surroundings but not a trace of it was found."
As reports of sky oddities continued to mount, Col. Harold R. Turner, commander of White
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Sands Proving Grounds, said according to the Associated Press that the puzzling objects were apparently meteors that "are coming closer to the surface of the earth and appear much larger."
Turner revised a guess that the shining objects might be an illusion created by hot circular exhausts of jet planes upon a check of the two new observations. The officer gave this report:
Captain Dvyan of the Alamogordo air base, in a private plane near Engle at about 8000 feet altitude, looked down and saw "a ball of fire with a blue fiery tail" about 2000 feet below him. It disintegrated as he watched, Dvyan said he was sure it was a meteorite.
W. C. Dodds, train inspector, saw a flame "high in the sky" at 9:50 a.m. yesterday about half a mile south of Hope. Capt. E. B. Detchmendy of the ordnance department at White Sands saw it too, from the St. Augustine pass.
Reflections of the sun's rays, Col. Turner said, could give a meteorite the appearance of a shiny flying disc which might appear to be quite near and traveling slowly, whereas it actually is many miles away and traveling at more than the speed of sound.
Another report of the shiny discs came today from El Paso where Dr. G. Oliver Dickson, optometrist, said he saw the object Sunday near the outskirts of El Paso. Dickson said the object looked like a blimp, was traveling over a mountain top, and although it appeared bright and shiny, it did not reflect the sun's rays.
From his 15-second observance, he estimated its speed at 150 miles an hour and its size as about 40 feet across and five feet thick.
[Ref. tbr1:] TED BLOECHER:
Ted Bloecher indicated that there was an air-to-air sighting on June 27, 1947, near Engle.
In his statement about "meteorites" being "larger and coming closer to earth" Lt. Colonel Harold R. Turner, White Sands Commander, said that "two reports" of "falling bodies" were being investigated, one in Tularosa and another near Engle, New Mexico.
Bloecher indicated that the Engle sighting took place on June 27, 1947, near Engle, a small town ten miles east of Hot Springs now called "Truth or Consequences", in New Mexico.
Bloecher says "Captain Dvyan, an Alamogordo Air Base pilot," who was flying in a private plane near the area of Engle at 3,000 feet when he "looked down and saw a ball of fire, with a fiery blue tail behind it." The object was about 2,000 feet below him, and he said he was certain that "it was a meteorite." The pilot reported that as he watched, the object "disintegrated in the air."
Bloecher could not find the dubious name "Dvyan" in the 1947 edition of The Army Register; with assistance of Miss Lynn Catoe of the Library of Congress, the Military Personnel Center in St. Louis was contacted, and they verified the fact that no "Dvyan" was registered in 1947. However, the records show a Captain Robert D. Dwan, who was born in Texas and was on active duty in 1947; he may be the pilot who made the air-to-air observation at Engle.
[Ref. lgs1:] LOREN GROSS:
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at Engle. Here is how UFO researcher Ted Bloecher reports it:
"The Engle sighting was an air-to-air observation made by 'Captain Dvyan, an Alamogordo Air Base pilot,' who was flying in a private plane near the area of Engle at 3,000 feet when he 'looked down and saw a ball of fire, with a fiery blue tail behind it.' The object was about 2,000 feet below him, and he said he was certain that 'it was a meteorite.' The pilot reported that as he watched, the object 'disintegrated in the air.' Engle is a small town ten miles east of Hot Springs (now Truth or Consequences), .New Mexico." (xx.)
(xx.) Bloecher, Ted. The Report on the UFO Wave of 1947. p.III-9.
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Apparently Col. Turner was a bit uncomfortable with the meteor suggestion since the object was reported below Dvyan's plane. Turner nonetheless didn't abandon the hypothesis. He said to the press that meteors: "... appear much larger and apparently are coming closer to earth than usual." (xx.) That didn't keep Turner from sending an investigator to the Engle area.
(xx.) Bloecher, Ted. The Report on the UFO Wave of 1947. p.I-6.
[Ref. dwn1:] DOMINIQUE WEINSTEIN:
French ufologist Dominique Weinstein compiled a catalog of the cases of UFOs observed from aircraft. The case in the February 2001 (6th edition) catalog appears as:
| DATE | 47.06.27 |
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| TIME | daytime |
| COUNTRY | USA |
| PLACE | Engle, New Mexico |
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| TYPE OF PLANE AND WITNESSES | pilot |
| UFO DESCRIPTION | one fireball flying at 2,000 ft below the aircraft with a fiery blue tail |
| Radar | |
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| SOURCES | 361/365 03 |
The sources "361/365 03" are referenced at the end of the catalog as:
Project 1947 Reports, newsclippings and documents (cases from Jan Aldrich and Barry Greenwood)
Flying saucers top secret, Major D. Keyhoe (Putnam, 1960)
report on the UFO wave of 1947, Ted Bloecher
[Ref. gvo1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:
1947, June 24
USA, New Mexico: Engle
A pilot saw a ball of fire flying 2000 feet below his aircraft; the object had a trail of blue flames. Two other pilots, one private and one military, reported a similar UFO flying at an altitude of 1000 feet. (Project ACUFOE, catalogue 1999, Dominique Weinstein)
[Ref. gvo1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:
1947, June 28
USA, Alamogordo (N.M.)
Captain F. Dvyn, flying near Alamogordo, saw a ball of fire with a sparkling blue trail behind it. It passed below his aircraft and appeared to disintegrate while he was observing it. (Charles BERLITZ and William L. MOORE: "The Rosswell [sic] Incident: The Mystery of Roswell, the Space Crash Survivors", France-Empire edition 1981, p.32)
[Ref. jcn1:] JAMES CARRION:
This ufologist says that at the end of June 1947, the following account came out of New Mexico:
Col. Harold R. Turner, commander of the White Sands Proving Ground, said today the "puzzling objects" sighted in the sky in New Mexico evidently were meteorites.
"They appear much larger and apparently are coming closer to earth than usual," he said.
Investigations of two reports of falling bodies, one in Tularosa and another near Engle, N.M. were made by Col. Turner today.
Capt. Dvyan of the Alamogordo Air Base, flying a private plane at about 3000 feet, reported he looked down to see a "ball of fire with blue fiery trail behind." The object was about 2000 feet below him, he said, and as he watched it disintegrated. He said he is sure it was a meteorite, Col. Turner reported.
The source of this quote is described as: "U.P. (1947, 29 June). Mystery ‘flying discs’ believed meteorites. The Los Angeles Time. p.3."
[Ref. get1:] GEORGE M. EBERHART:
June 27 [1947] - Day. Capt. Robert D. Dwan, a pilot out of Alamogordo Army Air Field (now Holloman AFB), New Mexico, is flying a private plane near Engle, New Mexico, at 3,000 feet, when he looks down and sees a "ball of fire, with a fiery blue tail behind it." The object is about 2,000 feet below him, and he is "certain it is a meteorite." The object disintegrates as he watches it. (Bloecher, pp. III-9-10)
Note: George Eberhart found an obituary of Robert Daspit Dwan (1919 - 2019), Col. Ret.; but according to this obituary he was not a flier.
[Ref. wia1:] "WIKIPEDIA" (EN):
| Report publish date | Location | Date of claimed sighting | Name | Notes | Bloecher # [A] |
| Jun 28 | Engle, New Mexico | Jun 27 | Captain Dyvad (29) | Fireballs IDed as meteors by Col. Turner, | #83 |
The source "29" is detailed as; "Jun 1947, Page 2 - Albuquerque Journal at Newspapers.com". Newspapers.com."
All that has been reported was that it was a private plane.
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The US Press, on June 28, 29 and 30, 1947, reported that Colonel Turner had sent an automobile to Engle to investigate the case of a "falling body" report in Engle.
See for example:
The Albany Democrat, June 28, 1947.
The Green Bay Press, June 28, 1947.
The The Sheboygan Press, June 28, 1947.
The Des Moines Register, June 29, 1947.
The Dunkirk Evening Observer, June 30, 1947.
The Albuquerque Journal for July 2, 1947, reported on page 2:
"Hollis O. Cummins of Capitan writes: "Today (June 27) my mother noticed a shiny object streak to the sky about 10 a.m. ... Later in the day, a neighbor, Erv Dill, mentioned having seen a similar object, at the same time and going in the same direction. ... He said he believed it landed left on the C on Wilson Hill here."
The pilot described a meteor, and other people on the ground gave description of a meteor, apparently seen at 10:00 a.m. in that area.
So, Colonel Turner was certainly right when he explained this pilot report as caused by a meteor.
I am not convinced that the "Robert D. Dwan" found by Bloecher and Catoe [tbr1] is the correct one, because the biographical information indicates that he was in the Army. He may also have been a private pilot, but he would not have been connected with Alamogordo Air Base.
Probable meteor.
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