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The 1954 French flap:

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October 1, 1954, Jussey, Haute-Saône:

Reference number for this case: 1-oct-54-Jussey. Thank you for including this reference number in any correspondence with me regarding this case.

Summary:

In 1969, ufologist Jacques Vallée indicated in his catalog of "landings" that on October 1, 1954, at 07:00 p.m. in Jussey in France, two young people "saw a luminous white disk moving in the sky. It dived to the ground and two men, described as being very tall and dressed in white, emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away in fear."

In 1974, ufologists Charles Garreau and Raymond Lavier evoked the same case, stating that the two young people were circulating near the village, that they saw a white and luminous disc appear in the sky; which circled and then landed in a pasture "at some distance", and that one of the witnesses said:

"We then saw two 'men', all dressed in white, come out. They did not say a single word, but, with a lot of gestures, they beckoned us to come to them. We became frightened anf fled. A few seconds later, the craft took off and disappeared in the night."

None of these authors thought it would have been nice to give a reference of a contemporary source; it will not be done until 1997, when Jean Sider indicated that it was the newspaper Le Comtois, of Besançon, of October 5, 1954, on page 2.

Reports:

[Ref. jve1:] JACQUES VALLEE:

173

Oct. 01, 1954, 07:00 P.M. Jussey (France).

Two young men saw a luminous white disk moving in the sky. It dived to the ground and two men, described as being very tall and dressed in white, emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away in fear. (Personal)

[Ref. jve2:] JACQUES VALLEE:

The author indicates that on October 1, 1954, two young people saw a white and luminous disc moving in the sky close to Jussey. It dove to the ground and two men described as very tall and dressed in white emerged from the apparatus and made gestures. The frightened witnesses fled.

[Ref. ldl3] "LUMIERES DANS LA NUIT":

In a list of cases of the 1954 French flap that were estimated to need an investigation or a counter-investigation, the magazine noted:

"10/1/54 Jussey".

[Ref. gal1:] CHARLES GARREAU AND RAYMOND LAVIER:

The two authors indicate that on October 1, 1954 at 07:00 P.M. in Jussey in the Haute-Saône, two young people circulating close to the village saw a white and luminous disc appearing in the sky.

The disc whirled then landed in a grazing ground "at some distance."

The authors give this witnesses account:

"We then saw two "men," dressed all in white, come out of it. They did not utter one word. But, with great reinforcement of gestures, they beckoned to us to come to them. We became frightened and we cut loose. A few seconds later, the machine took off and disappeared in the night."

The authors say that their sources are newspaper clipings and personal file.

[Ref. prn1:] PETER ROGERSON - "INTCAT":

347 1 October 1954 1900 hrs

JUSSEY (FRANCE) Two young men saw a luminous white disc moving in the sky. It dived to the ground, and two men described as very tall and dressed in white, emerged from it & made gestures. The witnesses ran away in rear (Ml73)

[Ref. jve7:] JACQUES VALLEE - MAGAZINE "HISTORIA":

October 1st 1954, 07:00 p.m., Jussey (Haute-Saône).

Two young men saw a bright white disc moving across the sky. It dove to the ground and two men, described as very tall and dressed in white, came out, made gestures. The witnesses panicked and fled.

[Ref. fru1:] MICHEL FIGUET AND JEAN-LOUIS RUCHON:

The two authors indicate that in Jussey in the department of Haute-Saone, on October 1, 1954, at 07:00 p.m., two anonymous young people who were close to the village observed a white disc in the sky, which whirled and descended towards the ground and landed in a field.

Two beings of big size equipped with white came out of there. They made gestures, without any word, but the two frightened witnesses fled.

The authors indicate that the sources are the Vallée catalogue, case 173; C. Garreau and R. Lavier in "Face aux ET" page 30.

[Ref. mft3:] MICHEL FIGUET:

Nr of the J. C. Fumoux list Nr of Francat list Localization Date Class Credibility Sources Number of W
016 105 Jussey 01/10 CE3 NI [=Unidentified] RS [= sparse information] 2-p 104 2 T

[Ref. mft1:] MICHEL FIGUET:

CAS Nr CLASSIFICATION DATE HOUR PLACE ZIP CODE CREDIBILITY SOURCE
105 CE3 01 10 1954 19.00 Jussey 70 500 B3 NI-RS, OVNI: p. 104

[Ref. lgs1:] LOREN GROSS:

October 1st. (7:00 p.m.)

Jussy [sic], France. A hoax?

According to our source, at Jussy, France, a French farmer informed the local authorities a white-colored machine landed near him and a couple of "very tall" beings dressed in white-colored clothes came out of the craft and made gestures to him. The farmer said he ran away. 7.

Jacques Vallee learned that subsequent investigations determined that the report was a hoax. 8.

[Ref. jsr1:] JEAN SIDER:

Ufologist and author Jean Sider indicates that on October 1st, 1954, at 07:00 p.m. in Jussey, Haute-Saône, two anonymous young people were traveling near the village - one does not say how - when they suddenly noticed in the sky a kind of disc of white color that sum and then dove to the ground to land in a field. Two tall beings dressed in white came out, made gestures towards the witnesses as if they invited them to approach, but these were frightened and preferred to flee.

Jean Sider indicates that the local source is "Le Comtois, Besançon, October 5, 1954, p. 2."

He notes that Figuet on page 104, cites the case but does not mention the interpretation of the gestures.

[Ref. mcn1:] MARK CASHMAN:

Jussey (France).

10/1/1954 19:00

Two young men saw a luminous white disk moving in the sky. It dived to the ground and two men, described as being very tall and dressed in white, emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away in fear.

[Ref. ars1:] ALBERT ROSALES:

110.

Location. Jussey France

Date: October 1 1954

Time: 1900

Two young men saw a luminous white disk moving in the sky. It dived to the ground, and 2 very tall men dressed in white emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away in fear.

Humcat 1954-62

Source: Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia

Type: B

[Ref. lhh1:] LARRY HATCH - "*U* COMPUTER DATABASE":

3893: 1954/10/01 19:00 12 5:52:00 E 47:46:20 N 3333 WEU FRN HSA A:6

nr JUSSEY,FR:2 OBS:LUM WHT SCR ^:2 TALL MEN EXIT+GESTURE:/LDLN#102+/r217p177

Ref# 67 BOWEN,Charles (ed.) The HUMANOIDS. Page No. 34 : MOUNTAINS

[Ref. goe1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

Godelieve van Overmeire indicates that on October 1, 1954, in France, in Jussey, "around 19 hours two young people saw a luminous white disc moving in the sky. It dove to the ground and two very large men dressed in white emerged, made gestures. The witnesses fled in panic."

The source is indicated as Jacques Vallée: "Chronique des apparitions ET" - DENOEL 1972 - COLL. J'AI LU - p. 263, 264.

[Ref. djn1:] DONALD JOHNSON:

On this Day

October 1

[...]

1954 - Two young men in Jussey, France saw a luminous white disc moving in the sky at 7:00 p.m. It dove to the ground and two very tall beings, dressed in white, emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away in fear. (Sources: Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 214; Michel Figuet and Jean-Louis Ruchon, OVNI: Le premier dossier complet des rencontres rapprochees en France, p. 104).

[Ref. jbu1:] JEROME BEAU:

Jerome Beau indicates that on Friday, October 1st, 1954, "19 hours: In Jussey (France), 2 young people see a luminous white disc moving in the sky. It plunges on the ground and 2 men, very large and dressed in white, leave, making gestures. The witnesses, panicked, flee."

The source is indicated as "Vallée, J., case #35, 'Rapport sur l'analyse de 200 observations documentées faites en 1954'".

[Ref. lcn1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan indicates that in the Haute Saone in Jussey on October 1, 1954 at 19:00 hours, "two young people who are close to the village observe a white disc in the sky which whirls goes down towards the ground to land in the fields. Two beings of big size dressed in white come out of there. They make gestures, without any word, but the two frightened witnesses flee."

The source is indicated as "Ovni, Premier dossier complet... by Figuet M./ Ruchon J.L. ** Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979".

[Ref. uda1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 1 October 1954 at 19:00 in Jussey, France, there was a "luminous white disk from which emerged two men, very tall and dressed in white." "Two young men in Jussey, France saw a luminous white disc moving in the sky at 7:00 p.m. It dove to the ground and two very tall beings, dressed in white, emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away in fear."

"Two young men saw a luminous white disk moving in the sky. It dived to the ground and two men, described as being very tall and dressed in white, emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away in fear."

"Close encounter with an unidentified craft and its occupants. One white saucer was observed by two male witnesses at a mountain for over 12 minutes. Two 7.5-foot-tall tall beings, each wearing a white suit, were seen."

"Two young men saw a luminous white disk moving in the sky. It dived to the ground, and 2 very tall men dressed in white emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away in fear."

The sources are indicated as Webb, David, HUMCAT: Catalogue of Humanoid Reports; Bowen, Charles, The Humanoids: FSR Special Edition No. 1, FSR, London, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Computerized Catalog (N = 3073); Vallee, Jacques, A Century of Landings (N = 923), (in JVallee04), Chicago, 1969; Schoenherr, Luis, Computerized Catalog (N = 3173); Rogerson, Peter, World-Wide Catalog of Type 1 Reports; Delaire, J. Bernard, UFO Register Volume 7 (1976), Data Research, Oxford, 1976; Hatch, Larry, *U* computer database, Author, Redwood City, 2002; Rosales, Albert, Humanoid Sighting Reports Database.

[Ref. pr2:] PETER ROGERSON:

October 1 1954, 1900hrs.

JUSSEY (HAUTE-SAVOIE : FRANCE)

Two young men saw a luminous white disk moving in the sky. It dived to the ground and two very tall men dressed in white emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away,

[Ref. jgz1:] JULIEN GONZALEZ:

The author writes that on October 1, 1954, at 07:00 p.m. in Jussey in the Haute-Saône, two young anonymous people circulated not far from the village. They suddenly noticed in the sky a kind of white disc which whirled and then dove towards the ground and landed in a meadow.

Two tall beings dressed in white came out of it, they made gestures towards the witnesses like inviting them to approach, but the frightened witnesses preferred to flee.

The author gives as sources: Le Comtois, of Besançon, for October 5, 1954, Michel Figuet and Jean-Louis Ruchon in "OVNI le Premier Dossier des Rencontres RapprochéEs en France" page 104, and Jean Sider in "Le Dossier 1954 et l'imposture rationaliste" on page 177.

[Ref. nip1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":

*Oct. 1, 1954 - Two young men in Jussey, Haute-Saone department, France saw a luminous white disc moving in the sky at 7:00 p.m. It dove to the ground and two very tall beings, dressed in white, emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away in fear. (Sources: Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 214, case 173; Michel Figuet & Jean-Louis Ruchon, OVNI: Le premier dossier complet des rencontres rapprochees en France, p. 104).

[Ref. tai1:] "THINK ABOUT IT" WEBSITE:

Location: Jussey France

Date: October 1 1954

Time: 1900

Two young men saw a luminous white disk moving in the sky. It dived to the ground, and 2 very tall men dressed in white emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away in fear.

Source: Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia 173

[Ref. ubk1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded this case 7 times:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19541001 01.10.1954 Jussey France 19.00 CE III
19541001 01.10.1954 Jussey France 19.00 CE III
19541001 01.10.1954 Jussey France 19.00 CE III
19541001 01.10.1954 Jussey France 19.00 CE II
19541001 01.10.1954 Jussey France 19.00 CE III
19541001 01.10.1954 Jussey France 19.00
19541001 01.10.1954 Jussey France

[Ref. prn3:] PETER ROGERSON - "INTCAT":

October 1 1954. 1900hrs.

JUSSEY (HAUTE-SANOE : FRANCE)

Two young men saw a luminous white disk moving in the sky. It descended to the ground and two very tall men dressed in white emerged from it and made gestures. The witnesses ran away.

Explanations:

As can be seen above in [lgs1], Loren Gross wrote that in the Flying Saucer Review, Volume 10, No. 3. of May / June 1964, there had been a letter from Jacques Vallée informing that the case was a hoax ("Jacques Vallée learned that subsequent investigations determined that the report was a hoax.")

I was ready to believe it, but when in 2019, I was able to read this issue of the FSR, though I did find an article by Jacques Vallée, including some cases of 1954 that he discarded for this or that reason, he did not write a word about the case of Jussey or "Jussy". I consulted the next issue of the FSR, there was nothing either. Loren Gross must have been confused...

Which obviously does not prove that the case cannot be a hoax; or a helicopter.

The case, obviously never investigated, seems to me too badly documented to draw firmer conclusions.

Keywords:

(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

Jussey, Haute-Saône, luminous, disc, white, manoeuvers, occupants, humanoids, gestures, clothes, frightened

Sources:

[----] indicates sources which I have not yet checked.

Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross March 25, 2003 First published.
1.0 Patrick Gross February 12, 2009 Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [goe1], [jbu1], [lcn1], [uda1].
1.1 Patrick Gross August 13, 2013 Addition [prn2].
1.2 Patrick Gross October 4, 2014 Additions [jve7], [jsr1], [nip1], [tai1].
1.3 Patrick Gross December 12, 2016 Additions [ldl3], [lgs1], [jgz1], [ubk1]. Explanations changed, were "Not looked for yet".
1.4 Patrick Gross July 20, 2019 Additions [prn1], [mft1], [lhh1], [prn3], Summary. Explanations changed, were "Hoax."

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