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October 12, 1954, Vielmur-sur-Agout, Tarn:

p>Reference number for this case: 12-oct-54-Vielmur. Thank you for including this reference number in any correspondence with me regarding this case.

Reports:

[Ref. so1:] "SUD-OUEST" NEWSPAPER:

Vielmur-sur-Agout. - M. Roger Ramond, city council man and night watchman at the company of the Mills of Vielmur, saw a mysterious machine in the sky.

"It was exactly 11:30 p.m., he said, when I saw on the hill located on the opposite slope of the Agout, that is to say at a distance of approximately 400 m, a machine having the shape of an elongated balloon, a length from two to three meters approximately, by one meter to one meter fifty in height, illuminated of orange red color. The luminosity was spread on a radius of twenty meters and made it possible to distinguish the stocks of the nearby vines."

"This appearance lasted up to 02:15 a.m.; at this time the apparatus rose very slowly vertically to immobilize itself during ten seconds approximately at about twenty ot thirty meters of height during ten seconds approximately, and disappeared very fast without leaving a trail."

"I went on the spot in the morning but I could not observe any trace, the machine having landed on a passage of carts very trampled by the recent grape harvest."

[Ref. dm1:] "LA DEPECHE DU MIDI" NEWSPAPER:

Vielmur-sur-Agout. - M. Roger Ramond, city council man and night watchman at the company of the Mills of Vielmur, saw a mysterious machine in the sky.

"It was exactly 11:30 p.m., he said, when I saw on the hill located on the opposite slope of the Agout, that is to say at a distance of approximately 400 m, a machine having the shape of an elongated balloon, a length from two to three meters approximately, by one meter to one meter fifty in height, illuminated of orange red color. The luminosity was spread on a radius of twenty meters and made it possible to distinguish the stocks of the nearby vines."

"This appearance lasted up to 02:15 a.m.; at this time the apparatus rose very slowly vertically to immobilize itself during ten seconds approximately at about twenty ot thirty meters of height during ten seconds approximately, and disappeared very fast without leaving a trail. I went on the spot in the morning but I could not observe any trace, the machine having landed on a passage of carts very trampled by the recent grape harvest."

[Ref. tl1:] "LE TARN LIBRE" NEWSPAPER:

THE FLYING SAUCERS TOPIC

[...]

A Vielmur

Mr. Roger Ramond, city council man and night watchman at the company of the Mills of Vielmur, saw a mysterious machine in the sky, on October 12.

"It was exactly 11:30 p.m., he said, when I saw on the hill located on the opposite slope of the Agout, that is to say at a distance of approximately 400 m, a machine having the shape of an elongated balloon, a length from two to three meters approximately, by one meter to one meter fifty in height, illuminated of orange red color."

"The luminosity was spread on a radius of twenty meters and made it possible to distinguish the stocks of the nearby vines. This appearance lasted up to 02:15 a.m.; at this time the apparatus rose very slowly vertically to immobilize itself during ten seconds approximately at about thirty meters of height. It disappeared suddenly like a flash without leaving a trail. No trace could be found, the machine having landed on a passage leading to the vines and very trampled during this time of grape harvest."

[...]

[Ref. am1:] AIME MICHEL:

Aimé Michel mentions the case in relation to others but does not provide specifics.

[Ref. mc1:] MICHEL CARROUGES:

Michel Carrouges mentions that the incident reported by Mr. Ramond occurred on October 14, 1954, and happened in Vielmur-du-Tarn and not Villemur near Fronton. It lasted 2 hours 3/4.

[Ref. jv5:] JACQUES VALLEE:

322 -002.09241 43.62120 12 10 1954 23 30 1 VIELMUR-TARN F 031 C *283

[Ref. jv1:] JACQUES VALLEE:

247

Oct. 12, 1954, 11:30 P.M., Vielmur (France).

Roger Ramond, a nightwatchman saw a great light and noticed an oval object which landed 300 m away. It looked like a fiery orange ball, illuminated the vinyard for nearly 3 hrs, then assumed a vertical position, rose slowly, hovered 30 m above ground for a few seconds, and took off at fantastic speed. (64; M 168)

[Ref. jv2:] JACQUES VALLEE:

The author indicates that on October 12, 1954, little before midnight, Roger Ramond, watcher in Vielmur in the Tarn, saw a great light and noticed an oval object which landed within approximately 300 meters of him. The U.F.O. had the appearance of an orange crimson balloon and illuminated the vineyard of a light violet. It remained there nearly three hours, then took a vertical position, rose slowly, stopped within 30 meters of the ground during a few seconds and finally flew away at a dazing speed.

[Ref. gl1:] CHARLES GARREAU AND RAYMOND LAVIER:

En indiquant comme références coupure de presse et dossiers personnels, les deux ufologues rapportent dans leur livre le cas de Vielmur-sur-Agout, Tarn, du 12 octobre 1954 vers 23 h 30:

Indicating newspaper clippings and personal files as references, the two ufologists report in their book the case of Vielmur-sur-Agout, Tarn, of October 12, 1954 at about 23:30:

Mr. Roger Ramond, the night watchman of the Company of the Mills of Vielmur has his attention drawn, during a round, by a machine resembling "an ellongated balloon," of orange red color, landed on the slope on a hill, on the other side of Agout. Mr. Ramond estimates that it was approximately 3 meters long, and 1,50 m in height. Consequently, the night watchman does not quit the object with the eyes anymore, and this during three hours, during which the machine eerily illuminates the vineyard.

Then, the object rises slowly, hovers during a few seconds at three hundred meters above the ground, and then rushes away in the sky at a fantastic speed.

[Ref. fr1:] MICHEL FIGUET ET JEAN-LOUIS RUCHON:

The two authors indicate that in Vielmur-sur-Agout in the department of Tarn on October 12, 1954 at 11:30 p.m., Roger Ramond, night watchman and city council man, observed an ovoid object of orange color of two to three meter length and one meter to one meter fifty in height.

The object evolved on the hill located on the opposite slope of the river Agout where the Moulins company of Vielmur is located. It spread a clearness of violet color on a radius of 20 meters and this allowed to distinguish all the details very clearly. The appearance lasted up to 02:15 of the next day's morning.

The object then rose very slowly vertically, to hover motionless at a height from 20 to 30 meters during ten seconds. It then "disappeared like a flash."

The sources are noted as: case 247 of the Vallée catalogue; C. Garreau and R. Lavier in "Face aux ET" page 112; La Dépêche du Midi for October 15, 1954; Quincy; Sud-Ouest for October 12, 1954.

[Ref. go1:] GODELIEVE VAN OVERMEIRE:

The Belgian ufologist indicates that in 1954, on October 12, in France in Vieilmur, Roger Raymond, night watchman, saw at 11:30 p.m. "a great light and noticed an oval object which lands 300 m further. It resembled a balloon of a fiery orange and illuminated the vineyard during nearly 3 hours (until 02:15 on 10/13/54) then, taking a vetical position, it rose slowly, hovered during a few seconds at 30 m above ground-level and took off at a fantastic speed."

She indicates that the sources are "Sud-Ouest, 12 Oct 1954" and "Jacques Vallée: 'Chronique des apparitions ET' - DENOEL 1972 - J'AI LU COLL. - p. 279".

[Ref. dj1:] DONALD JOHNSON:

On this Day

October 12

[...]

1954 - Roger Ramond, a night watchman, saw a great light and noticed an oval object land 300 meters away in Vielmur, France. It looked like a fiery orange ball, illuminated the vineyard for nearly 3 hours, then assumed a vertical position, rose slowly, hovered 30 meters above the ground for a few seconds, and took off at fantastic speed. (Sources: Aime Michel, Flying Saucers and the Straight Line Mystery, p. 168; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 227).

[Ref. jb1:] JEROME BEAU:

Tuesday October 12 1954

[...]

11:30 p.m. In Vielmur (France), Roger Raymond (night watchman), sees a great light and notices 1 oval object which lands 300 m further. It ressemblesa balloon of a fiery orange and illuminates the vineyard during nearly 3 H then, taking a vertical position, rose slowly, in overflight during some S at 30 m above ground-level, tehn takes off at a fantastic speed.

[...]

The source is indicated as "Sud-Ouest, October 12, 1954".

[Ref. lc1:] LUC CHASTAN:

Luc Chastan indicates that in the Tarn in Vielmur sur Agout on October 12, 1954 at 23:30 hours "a night watchman observes an ovoid object of orange color from two to three meter in length by one meter to one meter fifty in height. The latter moves on the hill located on the opposite slope of the [river] Agout where there is the Moulins company of Vielmur. It speads a luminosity on a radius of 20 meters of violet color and which makes it possible to distinguish all the details very clearly. The appearance lasts until 02:15 the following day. Then it rises very slowly vertically to immobilize itself at a height from 20 to thirty meters during ten seconds. It then disappears like a flash."

The source is indicated as "Ovni, Premier dossier complet... by Figuet M./ Ruchon J.L. ** Alain Lefeuvre pub. 1979".

[Ref. ud1:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 12 October 1954 at 23:30, "Roger Ramond, a night watchman, saw a great light and noticed an oval object land 300 meters away in Vielmur, France. It looked like a fiery orange ball, illuminated the vineyard for nearly 3 hours, then assumed a vertical position, rose slowly, hovered 30 meters above the ground for a few seconds, and took off at fantastic speed."

The website adds: "Roger Ramond, a night watchman saw a great light and noticed an oval object which landed 300 meters away. It looked like a fiery orange ball, illuminated the vineyard for nearly three hours, then assumed a vertical position, rose slowly, hovered 30 meters above ground for a few seconds, and took off at fantastic speed."

And: "An object was sighted that had an appearance and performance beyond the capability of known earthly aircraft. One orange oval object was observed by one male military witness on a farm for three hours (Ramond; Stramare)."

The source is indicated as "Vallee Magonia Database".

[Ref. ud2:] "UFODNA" WEBSITE:

The website indicates that on 12 October 1954 at 23:30 in Vielmur-sur-Agout, France, "An object was sighted that had an appearance and performance beyond the capability of known earthly aircraft. One object was observed by one male military witness on a farm for three hours."

The sources are indicated as Michel, Aime, Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery, S. G. Phillips, New York, 1958; Bowen, Charles, The Humanoids: FSR Special Edition No. 1, FSR, London, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Computerized Catalog (N = 3073); Vallee, Jacques, Challenge to Science: The UFO Enigma, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1966; Vallee, Jacques, Preliminary Catalog (N = 500), (in JVallee01); Vallee, Jacques, A Century of Landings (N = 923), (in JVallee04), Chicago, 1969; Schoenherr, Luis, Computerized Catalog (N = 3173); Hatch, Larry, *U* computer database, Author, Redwood City, 2002.

[Ref. ni1:] "THE NICAP WEBSITE":

*Oct. 12, 1954 - Roger Ramond, a night watchman, saw a great light and noticed an oval object land 300 meters away in Vielmur, France. It looked like a fiery orange ball, illuminated the vineyard for nearly 3 hours, then assumed a vertical position, rose slowly, hovered 30 meters above the ground for a few seconds, and took off at fantastic speed. (Sources: Aime Michel, Flying Saucers and the Straight Line Mystery, p. 168; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century of Landings, p. 227, case # 247).

[Ref. ub1:] "UFO-DATENBANK":

This database recorded this case 7 times:

Case Nr. New case Nr. Investigator Date of observation Zip Place of observation Country of observation Hour of observation Classification Comments Identification
19541012 12.10.1954 Vielmur France 23.30
19541012 12.10.1954 Vielmur France 23.30 CE II
19541012 12.10.1954 Vielmur France 23.30 CE I
19541012 12.10.1954 Vielmur France 23.30 CE I
19541012 12.10.1954 Vielmur France 00.00 CE I
19541012 12.10.1954 Vielmur Agout France 23.30 CE I
19541012 12.10.1954 Vielmur France 00.00 CE I

Notes:

There must be at least a time or date mistake, either for the event or for the date of the article of the Sud-Ouest newspaper. It does not seem possible to me that the event occurred the 12th at 11:30 P.M., and was mentionned in the newspaper of the same day.

Explanations:

Not looked for yet.

Keywords:

(These keywords are only to help queries and are not implying anything.)

Vielmur-sur-Agout, Tarn, Roger Ramond, Roger Raymond, guard, balloon, object, elongated, purple, red, orange, hill, duration, luminous, stationary, fast

Sources:

[---] indicates sources which I have not yet checked.

Document history:

Version: Created/Changed by: Date: Change Description:
0.1 Patrick Gross April 7, 2003 First published.
1.0 Patrick Gross March 11, 2009 Conversion from HTML to XHTML Strict. First formal version. Additions [mc1], [go1], [dj1], [jb1], [lc1], [ud1, [ud2].
1.1 Patrick Gross June 29, 2010 Addition [jv5].
1.2 Patrick Gross November 15, 2014 Addition [ni1].
1.3 Patrick Gross February 21, 2017 Addition [ub1].

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